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Game 106 Thread / Phillies @ Cubs (3 of 4)
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Jamie Moyer vs. Rich Hill
Lineups:
| Roberson RF | Soriano LF |
| Iguchi 2B | Fontenot 2B |
| Rollins SS | Lee 1B |
| Howard 1B | DeRosa 3B |
| Rowand CF | Murton RF |
| Burrell LF | Cedeno SS |
| Ruiz C | Jones CF |
| Nunez 3B | Kendall C |
| Moyer P | Hill P |
Rich Hill back to the mound, the guy who gets 3.22 runs per game from his offense, worst in the NL among pitchers with at least 100 innings pitched. Rich also got lit up against the Phils on May 11th in Philly. On the other side of the mound, there’s Jamie Moyer, a soft-tossing lefty, aka Cubs kryptonite. I’ve got a bad feeling about this.
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77 Responses to “Game 106 Thread / Phillies @ Cubs (3 of 4)”
August 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Fontenot batting second? Kendall? Cedeno?? This lineup sucks.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:45 pm
this lineup does suck, which means we’ll score at least 7… been that way lately anyway…
August 1st, 2007 at 4:52 pm
What, no other lefties we could squeeze into the lineup? Grandpa Lou must have flipped back through his old Psych 101 textbook and found the section on “reverse psychology”…
August 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm
We may not get a hit after DeRosa… maybe Murton can squeeze one out. 1-22 9 K’s.
August 1st, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Where is the other split-squad game being played?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Kendall’s really picked it up as a Cub
2007 as an A: 226/261/281 542 OPS
as a Cub: 226/314/258 572 OPS
woo!
August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pm
I understand the need to rest A-Ram on occasion, and Theriot can’t play short every day in 90 degree heat –but, Jacque in CF?? Does he have good numbers against Moyer? If so, why he is hitting 7th behind Cedeno? If not, why isn’t Pagan playing CF?
This is really wacky.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pm
FWIW, Moyer’s been more effective against righties in his career–not too shocking given that he’s not a hard thrower.
If I remember correctly, Bobby Bonilla really struggled hitting righty against John Tudor. One game he decided to hit lefty against him and hit a home run.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Murton and Cedeno in the same lineup. I am amazed that the tidal waves and earthquakes from the world ceasing to rotate haven’t destroyed us all already.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:06 pm
But I still don’t think Jacque Jones should ever start against any LHS.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pm
from the last thread…
Jones actually 300/391/350 vs Moyer in his career, 20 AB’s and Moyer has no discernible split vs lefties or righties.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pm
300/391/350
?
Looks like Jacque’s hit a lot of squibblers against Moyer.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm
he’s got 6 hits, one a double.
Kendall 320/346/320 with no XBH’s fwiw…
Soriano 195/209/512 in 41 AB’s 4 of his 8 hits off Soriano went yard, another was a double
Murton 2/6 with a homer
Derosa 2/8
Ramirez was 0/5
August 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pm
JJ since the break
280/362/340 7 BB, 5 K’s, 9 RBI’s (tied for 3rd on the team with Soriano behind Lee and Ramirez)
August 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pm
195/209/512
That’s an awesome split.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pm
yeah, 4 of his 8 hits off Moyer it should read of course…
August 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Ooh, Lou calls out Murton on the pre-game with Santo.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Ooh, Lou calls out Murton on the pre-game with Santo.
Can you give some more info? Like what he actually said?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:50 pm
He was going through the lineup player by player and then he said something like:
Lou: “And then we got Murton …. (pause) …. And you know, we really need Murton to start hitting. You know, he’s been here and he knows this place and … it’s time.”
Ronny: “Yeah.”
That was it, but it was pretty clear Lou wasn’t pleased with Murton’s lack of hitting at the big league level.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Is anybody pleased with his hitting at the big league level this season?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pm
I heard Lou called out Murton by saying that Matt’s baseball pants made his ass look big.
August 1st, 2007 at 6:15 pm
I’m starting the I Heart The Chad fan club. Anyone want to join?
August 1st, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Mets just got a three-run homer from Castro in the second to go ahead in Milwaukee 4-3.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pm
We’re up 4-1 with RBIs by Jones, Murton, Cedeno, and Rich Hill. My head hurts.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Anyone watching TV? I’d love to know how/why Gameday scored Jones’ “double to SS Jimmy Rollins”. Blooper to shallow LF or what?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pm
OK, I’ve been gone a while and now I feel the need to comment.
1. Thank God that some of the jerkoffs have quit dropping by.
2. RBI from Hill, Murton, and Cedeno so far. Are you sure we are not playing the Albuquerque Isotopes?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pm
“2. RBI from Hill, Murton, and Cedeno so far. Are you sure we are not playing the Albuquerque Isotopes?”
are sure that we aren’t the Isotopes?
August 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pm
JJ hit a blooper down the left field line, rolled into the bullpen, Rollins picked it up.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pm
What an awful half-inning for Rich Hill. No W for the kid tonight.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Gary Mathews just called out Murton, too, saying he watches the ball too much and he needs to swing at the close ones. I assume he means especially late in the count.
Clock ticking on Matt, although he did drive one in.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:19 pm
What got under the Pirates’ skin tonight? 15-1 over the Cards? That’s a can of whoopass..
August 1st, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Nice way to welcome Matt Morris to PIT.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Its amazing what a poor job Hendry continues to do in taking this team to the next level.
Watching DeRosa batting cleanup and trying to protect Derrick Lee is laughable, and its no DeRosa’s fault, he’s paid like a #6 hitter and produces like a #6 hitter.
Passing on bringing in Kenny Lofton to play CF and leadoff with a .300+ BA and .375 OBP when the price was a class A catcher will never make sense to me.
It would have allowed us to move Soriano to the #5 spot (#4 tonight) and actually given us some protection in the lineup.
As it is, Henry was probably too busy following scounting reports on Kerry Woods’ recent outings to be bothered to do something like improve the team.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:19 pm
JONES!!! What a catch…
But he still sucks, right?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Who is Kerry Woods?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:31 pm
damn, Dempster!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Double by the Big Red Machine! I like this kid. I do. Cedeno to drive him in for the winner would be too perfect.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Wow. We load the bases and blow it, then they load the bases and blow it.
And Brian, in all fairness, DeRosa isn’t our #4 hitter. He is tonight, but that’s not Hendry’s fault or DeRosa’s job on a normal night.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:39 pm
where is ARam in this situation?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Change the flags! Change the flags! Change the flags!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pm
1st Place!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pm
WILD PITCH!! Woooo!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:45 pm
OMG!
1st place
About time baby!!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:48 pm
14 LOB for the night… shitty!
After Ken Doll struck out with the bases loaded and nobody out, I was sure Floyd was gonna GIDP.
I wonder what the Cub record for LOB in a single game is…
August 1st, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Hey Wild Thing,
is your glass half empty?
August 1st, 2007 at 9:50 pm
thanks ryan howard for making the first out at third base before rowand’s homer! smart move!
go cubs go
go cubs goooooo
August 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pm
first place!!!
Whooo!!
Dont look bsck
August 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pm
It would have allowed us to move Soriano to the #5 spot (#4 tonight) and actually given us some protection in the lineup.
The only thing that’s keeping Soriano from batting 4th or 5th is Lou and Soriano himself. Soriano wants to hit 1st, Lou tried putting him 5th and he didn’t produce so he stopped the experiment.
Having Lofton around wouldn’t change that, at all.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:52 pm
he didn’t produce so he stopped the experiment.
In 8 or 9 at-bats. You can’t learn much from 8 or 9 at-bats.
Ironically, he got moved back the leadoff spot and was 0 for 5 that day.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Adam:
No, I’m as excited as anyone to see the Cubbies in first, but you gotta admit… that was one ugly-ass game.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:56 pm
that was one ugly-ass game.
Or it was the most beautiful thing we have seen this year… :)
August 1st, 2007 at 9:57 pm
i don’t think 14 lob is bad actually. I’ve been looking at that particular number a lot. the problem with that number is that it counts every man left on base period. Its quite common for the winning team of a game to have quite a few men left on base.
For instance, say you have a 3 run inning. and you leave the bases loaded. thats 3 LOB. but you scored 3. Its not the best of stats.
Another example, Atlanta won 12-3 tonight. They did that while leaving 21 on base.
Take that number with a grain of salt.
The fact that the cubs are getting on base as much to LOB is a testament to winning even though they aren’t hitting home runs.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pm
No you can’t learn a ton from that few of ABs, but its was enough for Lou to stop trying it.
And regardless, I’m not even saying that the experiment should have been stopped, just pointing out the fact that it was stopped.
If Lofton had been aquired, Soriano would still be hitting leadoff. and tonight DeRosa would still have hit 4th.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Ha… who would have thought. Jock and Soriano were they only two starters to not strike out.
And GO MURTON!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:59 pm
I know Bleeding Blue… I agree with you.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pm
speaking of Sori, he’s managed to find his mojo without his leprechaun Pie.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pm
GO MURTON! WHO DOUBTED HIM?
ALSO, DARE I SAY IT?
WE BELIEVE!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:01 pm
FIRST PLACE BABY! THIS FEELS LIKE PLAYOFF BASEBALL! AWESOME CHAT! GREAT ENERGY! STATS WON US THIS GAME! HI CHAD!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Bill James and Billy Beane are responsible for the Cubs win. If Beane wouldn’t have traded the Cubs Kendall, the Cubs wouldn’t be the same team!
Therefore, Billy Beane is God.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:04 pm
First place!
“IT’S GONNA HAPPEN”…
August 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Sorry… we should stop picking on Chad.
Go CUBS!
Go MURTON!!
Go BULL PEN!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Hooray Cubs!!! 1st place!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Besides Murton being Man of the Match, Scott Erye pitched really well.
It’s a joke that Lou called out Murton. Let him play, shit-for-brains and he’ll hit. I’ve got 2000 AB’s of evidence to support this, and you’ve got Cliff ‘I hurt myself yawning in the morning’ Floyd.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:32 pm
wow, Neal, that’s worse than getting hurt on a sneeze…
August 1st, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Santo picked “The Bullpen” for player of the game tonight and it was well deserved.
And now the Dodgers are giving Bonds an IBB on ESPN. Meh.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pm
*Passing on bringing in Kenny Lofton to play CF and leadoff with a .300+ BA and .375 OBP when the price was a class A catcher will never make sense to me.*
Kenny Lofton should be getting paid by Penthouse, because he sure gives a lot of [admittedly delusional] people a fuckin’ hard-on.
*It would have allowed us to move Soriano to the #5 spot (#4 tonight) and actually given us some protection in the lineup.*
Soriano doesn’t want to hit fifth. And he doesn’t want to play CF–therefore, he doesn’t do either.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:55 pm
most box scores have a TEAM LOB, probably a more accurate stat fwiw.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pm
“Lineup protection” might be the most overhyped, meaningless concept in baseball. It matters so very little. Good hitters will hit regardless of who is behind them.
Pitchers don’t want to walk hitters. Period. You think Derrek saw worse pitches becasue DeRo was behind him instead of Aramis? Common sense (and maybe his two doubles) say otherwise.
Or take the extreme case: Barry Bonds will not see pitches no matter who hits behind him. He is unprotectable. Yes, you want to bunch your good hitters in the lineup, but not for protection.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Cubs are 25 of their last 35. That’s .714 ball for almost 6 weeks.
We’re tied for first in the Central and the WC. Two more games and we’re 2/3 of the way done with the season. This team could very well win over 90 games.
I can barely contain my glee.
Ha ha. I said glee.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pm
I wonder if the they have a stat for % of runners scored as that would really tell you how the offense is doing driving guys in. Take the Braves tonight for example scored 12/33 base runners or a little over 30 percent meaning they hit .300 with guys on. So I guess the stat I am looking for is team BA with runner’s on.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pm
if you want to know why Reggie Sanders didn’t get dealt, he’s back on the DL with a torn hamstring, retroactive to the 30th.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:29 pm
also Sammy is benched, was offered his release but he decided to stay on in a bench role.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Huge night. Everything is falling into place. Life is good.
When was the last time all of the Cubs’ starting 5 were .500 or better at this stage of the season?
With a sweep of the Mets this weekend, we would have the best record in the NL.
That is all.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pm
Lou-it To-it! Go Cubs!
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 am
I’ll take Sosa. You can even send Murton back to AAA until Floyd goes on the DL.
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 am
First place baby! Fuck yeah!
August 2nd, 2007 at 3:57 am
And the Cubs had NINE walks tonight.
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