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Internal Options to Replace Wang?
In the past few days, I have been vehemently opposing each and every proposed trade of prospects for a starting pitcher to replace injured Chien Ming Wang in the rotation. I don’t think there is a perfect fit out there, and I have voiced protestations regarding each deal as being too expensive, or being at the wrong time, or not offering enough of an upgrade over the internal options. To me, this makes perfect sense, though to others I may seem like Daffy Duck in Ali Baba Bunny [pushing Bugs down into the burrow] shouting, “It’s mine, you understand? Mine! All mine! Get back in there! Down, down, down! Go, go, go! Mine, mine, mine! Mwa-ha-ha-ha!” See, in this simile, the Yankee prospects are the treasure that Daffy covets, and…. well, never mind. To the 99.5 percent of you that never saw that episode, that was frigging funny. Some quote Shakespeare, I quote Daffy Duck. That about shows you where I’m coming from.
Anyway, dispensing with the Warner Brothers analogies, I admit that I’m rather fond of our current crop of prospects and I don’t want to just give them away for anyone. “So, Gaffney,” you ask, “what are these great options from within that you’re touting? You can’t just say, ‘don’t make a trade,’ without providing viable options!” No, I don’t suppose I can. Well, actually, I could. This is a blog, not the N.Y. Times. I could probably write about a torrid, lustful affair between Daffy and Bugs without losing my gig. But enough of my sordid fantasies, let’s talk some Yankee baseball. Without further ado, I present the Yankee internal options for replacing Wang in the rotation. Keep in mind that none of these guys can “replace” Wang’s production, but I promised no further ado and here I am adoing the blank out of this paragraph, so here goes.
Dan Giese: Has looked great so far in his audition as Joba’s personal reliever with a 1.23 ERA in 7 innings. He dominated AAA this year, posting league leading ERA and WHIP totals. This guy is 31, so we don’t have to baby him and watch his innings. I have read that there are concerns that he only really has two pitches which would limit his effectiveness for the third time around the lineup. He will get the first crack. Who knows, he could be this year’s Aaron Small.
Dan McCutchen: Averaging more than 6 innings per start in his professional career, McCutchen could be a nice fit for his ability to go deep in games, which is a vital part of what Wang gave the Yankees. He is already 25, having missed a period of time for a drug suspension, there will be few worries about him blowing his arm out. Pitching to contact, he boasts low ERA, low walk, and low strikeout totals (not sure if he’s actually BOASTING about that last one). He dominated AA this year with a Fastball, Split, Curveball arsenal and has only 5 starts in AAA under his belt, with an ERA in the threes. He seems to get better each start and should be a viable option if Giese implodes during his first two or three starts. It’s earlier than the Yanks would like to expose him to ML competition, but, heck, they brought Clippard and DeSalvo up, pretty much straight from AA last year. His big flaw is apparently the lack of a true “out pitch” but pitching to contact might be a better bet right now, anyway.
Kei Igawa: He will probably get the second shot if Giese fails. God help us all. If nothing else, it will be a good chance to get a seat in the upper deck and catch your first home run ball.
Ian Kennedy: Still at least a couple weeks away. He’s throwing in the bullpen but no word on rehab games, yet. He has nibbled a lot in his starts this year which does not bode well for his ability to go deep in games. He’s only 23, so the Yankees are not going to stretch him out. It might be too hard on the bullpen to deal with Moose and Kennedy each going 5-6 innings per week. I love this guy and he should get some spot starts here and there but we’ll see how deep he can go. He lacked the pinpoint control this year that he’s showed in the past. If he can regain that, he could be our guy.
Phil Hughes: He’s out until at least August, so he’s a long shot right there. I’d also love to see him in a low stress environment where he can work on the changeup that will make him a dominant #1 type ace in two or three years.
Jeff Marquez: Former 1st round pick and top 10 Yankee prospect, Marquez is a low 90s turbo-sinker type guy with average secondary pitches. He’s been a little wild in his AAA debut, and has only recently begun to put things together on that level, with his last outing being stellar. Like Wang, he tends to be a little up and down, dominating when the sinker is on and struggling when it’s not sinking. He could be a nice guy to bring up as a catch lightning in a bottle guy when his sinker is really working. The double plays and ground balls will get him deep into the game.
Alan Horne: This guy reportedly has great stuff. I even read a scout compare his stuff to Beckett’s. His fastball lives 92-95 and he also boasts a plus curve and at least an average slider and change. He has struggled in the past with command and injuries. He’s 25, but the Yankees are treating him with kid gloves b/c of his high ceiling and injury history. He’s only had one start since coming back from his latest problem, so he’s a couple weeks away at best. He’s another lightning in the bottle type.
Jeff Karstens: This guy’s still on the roster? Wily type who has put up good AAA numbers in the past but has battled injuries and inconsistency this year. He’s often billed as a AAAA pitcher who can’t get big league hitters out.
Alfredo Aceves: The wildcard. A 25 year old signee from the Mexican League (so he’s really 32) who has cruised through A and AA this year, allowing only 8 earned runs in 6 AA starts. He’s a Rasner type who doesn’t have special stuff but mixes it up and throws at least 3 pitches for strikes. Who knows, he may get his shot at some point, though without AAA experience, he may be down on the pecking order.
My pick: McCutchen. With his age, experience and ability to eat innings, I think he might be the most likely guy though I’m rooting for Kennedy to get healthy and rediscover the command that made him so dominant last year.
What do you guys think? If we don’t make a deal, who do you think will wind up holding down that role for the Bombers?









17 Responses to “Internal Options to Replace Wang?”
June 19th, 2008 at 2:31 am
You need to add Sidney Ponson to the list of internal options now.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:03 am
He actually had good K totals until this stop in Scanton
June 19th, 2008 at 7:04 am
BTW I was referring to Dan McCutchen
June 19th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Published it before the Ponson annc a & took it down so as not to interfere w/ the game thread. Okay:
Sidney Ponson: He’s always been a bit of a douche. His idea of exercise consists of lifting donuts into his gaping maw. Texas dropped him earlier this year for unspecified acts of douchiness… but he might still have ability (sub 4 ERA w/ Texas this year and he’s only 31, he just seems 45). His secondary numbers were still pretty bad, though: 1.563 WHIP and only 25 ks in nearly 56 innings. Prediction: He frustrates Girardi so badly that the Yankee managers takes off his belt and publicly flogs the giant tub of goo off the mound.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Giese may only have a fastball and a slider, but he throws 4 seamers, 2 seamers, he cuts it, he changes speeds on it, and I think I read that he changes his arm angles on his slider to get different results. A high arm angle for a sharp slider and a lower angle for slurve type pitch.
His game is mainly keeping opponents guessing and control. I think he’ll be about as good as Rasner.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:52 am
Pablo, re: McCutchen - A career minor league ERA below 7 is pretty meh for a guy who is generally overage for each level. There’s not much question that he will not be a big strikeout guy in the major leagues.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Haha you forgot Pavano, the super longshot.
June 19th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Tom, nice work. Good info with a dash of humor. Very well written. If we end up going with an external option and that ends up being Paul Byrd, that’s it, I’m done. If we are in contention a month from now and Wang and Hughes are on schedule to be back in Aug/Sep, why not Greg Maddux? Has he said he won’t come to NY? I think he’d be a great addition and we wouldn’t have to give up a top prospect for him. Just a thought…
June 19th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Anthony: Hmmm, Padres are 7.5 out in the West, 11 out of wildcard, in a different league, Maddux is in the last year of a 1 year deal - all that is very promising. His numbers are still good: 3.33 ERA, 1.21 WHIP. He’d be a great influence on the kids. He seems like a really good fit.
Some possible issues include durability (we’d love to get an innings eater) but he’s averaging around 6 innings per start so that’s not that bad. His ground ball percentage is way down each of the last three years which could offer problems with the short porch in right, and he’s avoided the American League like the plague.
Still, I kind of like the idea for insurance purposes. I wouldn’t think he’d be expensive. It’s a very interesting idea.
June 19th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Ponson was pitching well and I think this can be a good pick up. All he needs is a discussion about how he is expected to act. If somebody can have a serious talk with him about getting his act together (as they probably did the first time he was with the Yankees because he was a model citizen) it could be a good addition.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Bill, do you realize how many “get your act together” talks Ponson has been on the receiving end in his career? Six teams in five years and a little talky-talk is going to make things all better, hmmmm??? I’m thinking more along the lines of electro-shock therapy…. perhaps waterboarding.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Ponson has been arrested multiple times in multiple countries in the past few years for problems relating to his drinking.
He’s a confirmed alcoholic who’s shown absolutely no indication of getting into a serious recovery.
He’s violent. He’s moody. He’s a drunk. He has no work ethic. The list goes on.
But as someone who doesn’t like the Yankees, I think he’s a GREAT addition to you guys and I can’t wait to see him back in pinstripes.
For you Yankee fans though….you should probably be wary of him.
June 19th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Mike: as I said, he’s a bit of a douche :-)
Which of the 6 teams that Sidney has crapped all over do you owe your allegiance to?
June 19th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I like the Bugs/Daffy reference. Great episode.
Anyway, obviously Giese is the first one into the breach (dear friends). Ponson/Igawa are available as sacrificial lambs should one be required. Then IPK should be ready to come back. If Giese is pitching well, IPK can work at attacking the zone in AAA. If not, he’ll have to do it in the majors. Then in August we should get Phil back.
McCutchen could be a spot starter option, but I find it hard to believe he’s better or more seasoned than Hughes and Kennedy. He is older, and thus may have fewer restrictions in terms of pitch count and innings.
June 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Alan Horne has the most promise of the group and I believe, if healthy, it is time to throw him in the deep end and see if he can swim…..
June 19th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Rob: You’re matching my Bugs Bunny quote with SHAKESPEARE!? No fair! That’s like shooting a squirrel with a howitzer.
Jose: I haven’t seen Horne pitch yet and am very anxious to do so. It may be worth a trip to Scranton in order to watch him throw up close. I think the Yanks are going to really treat him with kid gloves, though, due to his injury history, so he’ll have to look really good and really healthy for at least 5-6 starts.
June 19th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Rob: Topping my Bugs quote with Shakespeare? No fair!! That’s like shooting squirrels with a howitzer.
Jose: I’m very interested in seeing Horne, too. It might even be worth a trip to Scranton to see him up close. Keep in mind, though, due to his injury history, the Yanks will treat him with the kiddiest of kid gloves. Not a word, I know, but hey, Shakespeare made up his words, too!!
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