Beggar (left), meet chooser (Photo courtesy of flickr)
Where “Retarded Media Combined With Shallow Fans” Happens
You have to be laughing your ass off if you’re a Cavs fan right now. And when somebody asks you why you’re so happy when you should be upset, worried, and afraid about the future of your team, you laugh harder.
If you’re one of those delusional fans who think that it’s a foregone conclusion that LeBron James is going to go play for Jay-Z and the New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets (or even think that there’s a strong chance of that happening), the joke’s on you.
Don’t worry, though. You’re reading this, so it’s a good start in the path to becoming educated. It’s a good start to forcing out the B.S. propaganda that the national media, which is always starving for some kind of weird, crazy story, is feeding you.
Our friends at “Waiting For Next Year” got the ball rolling on this one. And there’s no better place to start than this excerpt from WFNY’s RockKing when stomping this virus:
There’s this Great Lie that permeates NBA media and blogging circles. It’s everywhere you turn. It’s suffocating. It’s pollution. It’s founded solely in rhetoric and innuendo. And it’s demeaning to a city, a state, a player, and a collection of fans who follow all 3 (city, state, and player).
The Great Lie is that LeBron James is leaving Cleveland in 2010. The Great Lie tells the city of Cleveland that it’s not worthy of a person like LeBron James. The Great Lie tells the state of Ohio that it’s too backwards to qualify for housing a star of LeBron’s caliber. The Great Lie tells LeBron James that he’s an idiot if he isn’t scheming his escape from Ohio’s backwoods wilderness now already. The Great Lie tells us Cavaliers fans that we shouldn’t bother. The NBA isn’t for us. We aren’t good enough to watch our own homegrown hero succeed. The Great Lie is evil. The Great Lie is counterproductive. The Great Lie needs to stop.
It should have stopped years ago. But the general public, like the national media, always has flaws. It’s time to rinse them - at least in one area.
Here’s one thing that people don’t consider: What is LeBron going to do if he goes to the Nets simply because of Jay-Z? What can he gain from changing teams simply because his good buddy owns all of 1.47 percent of the New Jersey (I stress: New Jersey, not Brooklyn or New York) Nets?
During the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs this year, LeBron got into a little on-court, off-court confrontation with the Wizards’ DeShawn Stevenson. It pretty much stayed at “Yo Momma” for most of the way until Jay-Z stepped in and made a little DeShawn Stevenson/Washington Wizards diss track for LeBron.
That’s right: Jay-Z, who owns (and let me remind you one more time) 1.47 percent of the New Jersey Nets wrote a diss track to support a guy who plays for another team. Let me also remind you that this said player played a major role in eliminating this said (1.47 percent) owner’s team from the previous year’s postseason.
So what would Jay-Z have done if LeBron was playing for the Nets? Take out Stevenson’s knees? B**w LeBron’s d**k?
Do you see where I’m getting at? What in the hell does LeBron stand to gain by switching uniforms for the sake of a 1.47 percent owner that he’s already good friends with? LeBron has already gained a lot through Jay’s friendship, and I highly doubt that if and when he ever goes to Jay about advice on becoming a “global icon,” Jay-Z responds with “You don’t play for the Nets. I don’t want to talk to you.”
Then there’s the “big market” factor.
First, let’s start with this: LeBron James is already worldwide. He appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated as a high school junior while playing in Akron, Ohio. His jersey was the top seller during his rookie year and has remained a staple in the top three ever since. Putting “New York” or “Brooklyn” on his chest instead of “Cleveland” won’t change that. He’s already the second-most popular player in the league behind Kobe Bryant despite not even winning a ring at this point in his career, and Nike didn’t even wait to see which team or city he’d be playing in before throwing a $100 million contract at him the first minute they could.
On top of that, will the Nets even be moving to Brooklyn by 2010? They’ve kept putting off that highly-publicized move for years now. Even if you can make that “big market” argument, LeBron isn’t turning his back on his home state and legions of fans who have followed him since his high school years to play in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
(Psssst: That Nike contract that is rumored to pay him “escalators” if he goes to a big market? It expires in 2010, as well. Take it from a resident of Beaverton, Oregon, the home of Nike, and the son of a Nike employee when I say this: The company is extremely happy with their return on LeBron James, and the last thing they worry about when it comes to LeBron James is the size of the market where his team is located. You can either trust me on that, or wait to be proven wrong again in 2010, when you’ll likely disappear into thin air instead of show up and take your lumps.)
Do you see where I’m getting at? If you thought that it was just a matter of time before LB signed with the Nets in 2010 (or if you still do), don’t you feel like the dumb guy in the room? Don’t you feel like the fool in high school who got below a 1,000 on his SATs and got rejected by community colleges? That’s what the national media will do to you if you don’t pay attention and bring your own bit of information to the table.
I’m not naive, and I’d like to think that I’m not stupid. Of course there’s a chance that LeBron James will leave Cleveland. Shaq left Orlando. A-Rod left Seattle. Barry Bonds left Pittsburgh. But in these cases, it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Those guys left for money. Money is no object for Cavs owner Dan Gilbert, and it’s a foregone conclusion that the Cavs will offer James the maximum six-year deal in excess of $150 million that they can give him the minute he decides to opt out in 2010. In case the national media didn’t alert you about this, that’s still one full year and around $40 million more in guaranteed money than any other team - any other team - can offer.
Yeah, like “joining forces” with a 1.47 percent minority owner is enough to turn that down.
So go ahead, New Jersey. Clear that cap space. Trade away Jason Kidd. Trade away Richard Jefferson. Give Vince Carter away. Lose 60 games a season for the next two years (another factor: Why would LeBron want to voluntarily sign with a team that is showing no commitment to ever winning anything any time soon?). You still can’t touch the amount of money that the Cavaliers can offer LeBron James (and, for that matter, what Miami can offer Dwyane Wade).
If LeBron leaves Cleveland, it will definitely have to do everything with management and winning championships. There’s a very, very good chance he leaves the Cavs by 2010 if the team can’t get back to the Finals or prove that they’re set up to be a title contender for the next decade. And in that case, I wouldn’t blame him one bit. I’ve already mentioned that possibility on here before. As a matter of fact, I even lost a reader because of it. So don’t think that I’m guaranteeing that LeBron isn’t going anywhere.
But I am guaranteeing this: LeBron isn’t leaving the Cavs because of a 1.47 percent minority owner and the size of a particular media market. And look at it this way: New York, the Knicks, and the Nets definitely need LB a lot more than LB needs them. In this case, New York/the Nets/Jay-Z are beggars, while LeBron is the chooser. He has at least 40 million reasons not to choose them, and a 1.47 percent chance that he will.
How are those for odds?
And when’s the last time a marquee NBA free agent switched teams? Better yet, when’s the last time a marquee free agent turned down a max offer and took less money to switch teams? The media was telling you that LeBron would set that precedent in 2007 or 2008 when his rookie contract expired. I told you he wouldn’t. What ended up happening?
It appears, judging from James’ comments Monday, that the Nets might be James’ preferred destination if he opts out of his contract in the summer of 2010 and becomes an unrestricted free agent.
James listed New York as his favorite city Monday (his hometown of Akron, Ohio came in fifth behind Washington D.C., Dallas, and Los Angeles) as he took part in a one-day USA Basketball media blitz, and he also gave an answer to a follow-up question that’ll make Knicks president Donnie Walsh and head coach Mike D’Antoni cringe.
“My favorite borough? Brooklyn,” James said, choosing the proposed future home of the New Jersey Nets over the borough of Manhattan, where the Knicks play their home games. “Brooklyn is definitely a great place here in New York City, and some of my best friends are from Brooklyn, so I stick up for them.”
It appears, judging from James’ comments Monday, that the Nets might be James’ preferred destination if he opts out of his contract in the summer of 2010 and becomes an unrestricted free agent.
How can anyone logically correlate LeBron’s favorite city with the team he wants to play for? If you want to go that route, then his favorite team growing up was the Chicago Bulls. Poll a number of players from the league, including All-Stars, and ask them what their favorite city is. Was Chicago MJ’s favorite city? Is Boston Paul Pierce’s favorite city?
Of course, you’ll see stooges like Sheridan try to draw strings like this constantly. If LeBron loved New York so much and disliked Cleveland, he wouldn’t have signed that extension after his rookie season within two weeks of when it was offered. He could have decided to become a restricted free agent the following season, or an unrestricted free agent this summer. He re-signed.
Think of it this way: It’s like being with an extremely hot girl and watching her check out the dude with the six-pack at the beach while lying down next to you. Or even have lunch with the hot-shot exec at her office. You see it, or she tells you about it, or you notice it - and it bothers you a lot. She may even wink or flash a smile at the guy. You’re irate. But you can’t say what you want to: She is, after all, incredibly hot, and maybe something you say might rub her the wrong way and prompt her to leave you.
But the guy at the beach walks on. The guy at lunch goes back to his home for the night. And her? She comes back to you, to sleep next to you in your bed.
The guy at the beach and the guy at her office only see that in their dreams. For you, it’s a reality. And no matter what it is, whether it involves becoming more successful in your career or getting a leaner figure or changing something about your personality, you make sure each and every day that you live up to her expectations so that she continues coming home to you.
Keep walking, New York.
So go ahead. Read the message boards. Read Bill Simmons’ baseless, “finger-crossed” guarantees of walking from California to New Jersey in nothing but a game-worn Adam Morrison Bobcats jersey. Read Dan Shanoff’s constant crusade (that is going nowhere) to get LeBron out of Cleveland. Read Chris Sheridan’s nonsense as he tries to become the featured clown in the out-of-control LeBron-to-New York circus. They were all wrong once. And they’ll all be wrong again.
But you? If they fooled you once, then shame on them.
Fool you twice? Don’t try to take any IQ tests any time soon.
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29 Responses to “Where “Retarded Media Combined With Shallow Fans” Happens”
July 1st, 2008 at 6:19 am
Your boy Shanoff was in purest form again this morning.
Nice work!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:01 am
Ha!
these trolls at espn are drooling at the thought of having LeBron in one of their local markets, but its all silly.
why would he want to play for either one of those teams? they’re lousy teams.
if he leaves Cleveland, it will ONLY be to go somewhere where he has a better chance to win a title.
the Cavs have a huge chunk of change to spend next summer or to trade before then.
LeBron knows what he is saying. Yesterday’s comments were only a reminder to Ferry to use that chunk of change.
does anyone really think the Cavs are more than one legitimate complementary scorer away?
hell, their margin of defeat this year was P.J. Brown
July 1st, 2008 at 11:04 am
I think the truth here probably lies in between the two extremes (he’s leaving vs. he’d never leave). I think every transcendent superstar faces the point where he wonders if the grass is really greener somewhere else. Right now, the fun is in the wondering. And in the fueling of the speculation (its hard to poo-poo this, or expect the media to ignore the story, when LeBron is talking like this publicly). In two years, the weight of that decision will be a lot heavier (when he’ll have to make the ultimate decision).
You can’t peg it all on one thing though - its not just about titles, or market, or money, or teammates, or legacy - all these things will apply when it becomes LeBron’s time to choose.
I know you’re casting a dissenting opinion to all this coverage of the LeBron/NJ rumor. But on things like the favorite city/team correlation - you do understand that players live in their team’s cities for a good part of the year, right? All kinds of players choose not to go to a team because they don’t like the city (taxes, climate, Salt Lake City) - is it so far fetched to link a city they like to joining the local team? Maybe I’m a stooge like Sheridan, but there is more of a connection there than you’re allowing.
He probably won’t leave and you’ll come out looking right - but to expect this to be a non-story with all these juicy plot lines kind of expects the media to stop trying to sell stories. These kinds of free-agent stories always get attention, and LeBron is one of the top talents in the league - if you’re at this point now, its going to be a long two years.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Here is one scenario I don’t think I’ve heard anyone bring up yet: suppose LeBron simply decides to not opt out of his contract and stays for the 2010-11 season? Most players elect not to opt out, and the ones who do (Baron Davis, Elton Brand) usually do so because they think they’re not going to see the max contract they want. Obviously, that won’t be an issue with the Cavs and LeBron.
Everyone in Cleveland and in the New York market seems to be focused on 2010 like LeBron is going to jump out of Cleveland the first chance he gets. But if he wanted to do that, he could have turned down the Cavs’ extension two years ago, signed a qualifying offer last year and been on his merry way to the Knicks or Nets this summer, no strings attached.
He didn’t scamper out of Cleveland the first chance he got, so maybe he won’t ditch Cleveland on the second possible chance, either. LeBron seems to like to string things along and, above all, keep his long term options open.
No matter where he goes (or stays) in two or three years, I’d fully expect him to ink another shorter-term deal. He can pretty much write his own script within NBA rules when it comes to contract length, so whether it’s the Cavs, Knicks, Nets, Memphis Grizzlies or Maccabi Tel Aviv, he’ll probably situate himself so he’s eligible for free agency again in 2014 or 2015. It keeps his options open, and it keeps pressure on his team to keep improving.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Erik, you made the key point in your last sentence. I think how the next two years go will have a big impact on what he decides to do with his option.
You’d have thought Baron Davis was crazy to opt out of his deal - there’s no way he’s getting that kind of money in the open market, but today’s NBA superstar ain’t waiting on his next paycheck and these guys have a million reasons for making the decisions that they do.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
“That’s right: Jay-Z, who owns (and let me remind you one more time) 1.47 percent of the New Jersey Nets wrote a diss track to support a guy who plays for another team.”
Y’know, I never realized it until you worded it in this way, but isn’t this borderline tampering? I know the league doesn’t investigate tampering claims on their own, only when another team files a claim….and obviously Cleveland would never DARE file a claim against Jay-Z out of fear of facing LeBron’s wrath, but still…….that’s of questionable ethics at best.
Anyway, great piece Amar. I especially like the hot girl analogy.
July 1st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Finally, someone who set the record straight.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 am
Jay Z isn’t going to lure Lebron away, the Gilbert/Ferry/Brown combo will chase him away.
Why do you assume other teams won’t improve? You act as if the Nets have no chance whatsoever of improving their roster. Amar, you do realize that both the Nets and knicks are rebuilding now. Both teams will have the draft picks, the money and the location to attract real talent. Not old decrepit centers, not streaky spot up shooters, and certainly not late first round developement projects. Devin Harris would be a huge improvement for Lebron in contrast to what he’s been teamed up with in Cleveland. And I’m willing to bet that the Nets and the Knicks understand that lebron needs someone to play with that can create his own shot and average at least 10 pts within the lebron’s average. I bet they realize that offense isn’t overrated.
And Amar you can’t look at lebron signing his extension as proof that Lebron doesn’t want to leave Cleveland. I think his signing the extention had to do more with the fact that back then it wasn’t clear the Cavs couldn’t field a legitiment championship contender. Lebron thought they would get him help.
And at that point where could lebron have gone that was in better position than the Cavs? But as I mentioned earlier, the times are a changing. So, it’s very likely that the hot girl decides to do more than flash a smile. She likely will decide that coming home to you is a waste of her time and talent.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 am
Amar, did you have to use the word “retarded” in your headline? Yuck. Couldn’t come up with a better word? Why demean people with special needs? It’s not okay to take away someone’s dignity with a casual remark. You don’t have to have someone in your family with special needs to know how slurs and stereotypes hurt.
Please think before you use that word again.
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:38 am
missionmom-
Thanks for pointing that out to me, and I definitely want to take this opportunity to own up to my mistake and apologize to anyone I may have offended by using that word so recklessly. I didn’t mean any harm, although I see how that could have been done. Again, please accept my sincerest apologies.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:04 am
“Don’t worry, though. You’re reading this, so it’s a good start in the path to becoming educated. It’s a good start to forcing out the B.S. propaganda that the national media, which is always starving for some kind of weird, crazy story, is feeding you.”
Priceless, my man.
You never disappoint me, Amar. You’re introduction was a solid start to the morning. Keep on killin’ it; looking forward to seeing you over at CB every now and then, too.
-sw
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:08 am
I’m new here and but this has to be my favorite website now. I get so tired of the idiot national media acting like Cleveland doesn’t deserve LeBron James. Amar keep up the good work and puleez submit this to the a-holes over at ESPN. That article yesterday about LB “fueling NY rumors” absolutely sucked. I can’t even believe read the whole thing. We need more bloggers/writers like you to refute these d..kheads.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:45 am
There is no way Gilbert would allow Lebron James to leave the Cavaliers. He’d be looking at a huge devaluation in his investment. Never gonna happen.
I don’t really think James would leave Cleveland anyways. Hometown GOD, on pace to become a billionare, and he’s going to leave for what? I think people underestimate how much Akron and Cleveland mean to the kid.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:48 am
And one other thing, Boston took 7 games and one last good 4th quarter at home to beat the Cavaliers this year. The Celtics went on to steamroll Detroit and LA.
All of that with a hastily thrown together emergency trade a short time before. Combine injuries to Sasha, Flopster, an Gibson and they still almost pulled off the Boston upset.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:23 am
First time here - this is a nice read.
I don’t remember the last NBA article I read on ESPN.com that didn’t feature SOMETHING about LeBron leaving Cleveland.
In JA Adande’s article today about BARON DAVIS TO LAC he makes a point about LeBron leaving Cleveland….
This story reminds me of Y2K.
It’s like the chic thing to talk about and get all excited/worried about. Everyone in Cleveland is buying canned foods and bottled water instead of enjoying LeBron James. I will admit it’s difficult to enjoy his game with the hyenas in the media who criticize his every move and say he’s overrated whatever, and then a week later write a story about how he’s leaving. It’s like we can’t win.
This is the Y2K of Cleveland sports. It’s up to Ferry to make the necessary upgrades - if he does that, LeBron will stay, the SKY wont collapse, and the Y2K of basketball will all be a bad dream. And all the media types that propagated it will probably get raises.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:58 am
Great post. I still am not 100% convinced but I definitely am not as ridiculously paranoid as I once was.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:47 am
Money isn’t the issue. He signed a $105 million endorsement deal out of high school, so I don’t understand in one breath saying its not about money and then pointing out the “$40 million reasons”.
Its winning championships (the one thing that compares anyone to the greats is rings) and his outside interests.
I would not be shocked at all if he bails in 2010. Its up to the Cavs to build a talented supporting cast and fast or I think the chances are he’s gone.
The ring’s the thing.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:49 am
Not real sure I live the “Cavalier” use of the term “retarded” here.
There are many other adjectives you could use to describe the media, but handicaps are not the place for that.
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:50 am
I did not see the apology post Amar.
Didn’t mean to be redundant.
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
The only thing Gilbert has at his disposal is money and the team he builds around LeBron. At this point LeBron doesn’t need more money and the team building hasn’t quite gone to plan. Yes, they’ve done well in the east, but that was the gist of my comment earlier about them having two years to convince him Cleveland is the right spot - if they don’t make the team better, the grass will look greener.
I don’t fully understand the outrage on this story - this happens with every superstar that approaches the end of a contract, and while its starting early here (two years out) the player is openly fueling the story with its sexy ties to the music industry. The media might be lazy, but even you have to admit the structure for ongoing coverage of this story is there. This is the culture we live in man.
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Come on, LeBron is doing what a global icon should be doing. Increasing buzz in your brand name. He might not leave, but the media hype is building to epic proportions. When he gives love to New York, and Brooklyn in particular, it’s to fuel speculation on one hand and show respect to Jay-Z on the other. The sad thing is how the media is playing this whole thing like they are on to something. Yeah…they’re on to something all right. Bron’s jock, that is…
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
You are right; Jay-Z will not make or break any deal.
Shaq was a “global icon” in Orlando and LA wooed him away.
The Nike comment was funny. I recently read an article about that. A spokesman from Nike said that they overpaid Lebron, have not made up that money, and they’ve actually lost money off of his deal.
You are right in another regards. If and when Lebron leaves Cleveland, it will definitely have to do with management and winning.
Then you follow up by saying: “There’s a VERY, VERY good chance he leaves the Cavs by 2010 if the team can’t get back to the Finals or prove that they’re set up to be a title contender for the next decade”.
All I have to say it, good luck with that.
July 3rd, 2008 at 9:43 am
Damien-
Don’t be hatin’ bc Shaq didn’t stay in Orlando. Heck, he didn’t even sign a single extension. We’ve at least got you beat in that regard when it comes to LB.
And about the Nike comment: You can read all the articles and BS comments you want. When you live a stone’s throw from the company’s world headquarters and have a parent who works for the company, I don’t think reading articles about what this XYZ spokesman said when you’re all the way out in Orlando means much now, does it?
Speaking of taking stock in what you read, I read in one of Shaq’s books published after he won his first title in 2000 that he left Orlando because he was pissed that the management there was basing his value on how much they were gonna offend Penny Hardaway. In fact, although it’s been a few years since I read that book, he said that the exact words of the team exec when Shaq’s camp made a request was that “That’s too much more than Penny. We don’t want to offend Penny.”
In that same book, Shaq said that the team’s allegiance to Penny and Penny’s big head was what helped push him over the edge and get him out of Orlando. Trust me: nobody is going to butt heads with LeBron in Cleveland, so we won’t have that problem. Then again, take it for what it’s worth, since you like believing everything you read and hear.
My take-home point is simple: If LB leaves Cleveland, it will be because the team couldn’t build a solid team around him. Period. You think Jay-Z will have that significant of a leverage if the Cavs win a title in 2009 or 2010? If he keeps losing in the second round like he did this season, I can see him being a serious threat to leave. But win a title and STILL leave $40 mil on the table to jump ship? Why the hell did he re-sign, then, in the first place back in ‘06?
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 pm
1) Not once in LeBron James’ career has he been surrounded by good role players. The Cavs made the finals because LeBron carried the team. I used to like watching the Cavaliers on TV when I could, but it is more like watching a one-man show. LeBron deserves better.
2) The Nets are moving to Brooklyn. Its happening. LeBron won’t leave so he can play in suburban New Jersey. But that team that plays in suburban New Jersey is going to move to Brooklyn, NEW YORK. It seems pretty clear LeBron likes New York City, and the Knicks and Brooklyn Nets will be waiting eagerly.
3) After so many years of providing a horrible supporting cast, how can Danny Ferry expect anyone to believe him when he says that he will sign good role players?
4) Donnie Walsh had great success with Indiana. He knows how to draft. He knows how to build a team. He would surround LeBron with guys who can shoot, and a player like LeBron would be right at home in Mike D’Antoni’s run and gun offense.
5) I don’t think this is about money. LeBron will make a lot of money no matter where he plays. He wants to win a championship. Nobody can do that alone. The Knicks and Nets already have some decent role players (Jamal Crawford, David Lee in NY and Yi, Brook Lopez, Devin Harris with the Nets).
What does Cleveland have?
No point guard and aging big men?
It is up to the Cavaliers management to prove that they are serious about contending for the championship.
If 2010 rolls around and the Cavs are looking pretty ordinary (as I suspect they will be), say goodbye to your star.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Good comment, Steve. It just follows up my belief that LeBron will leave if the supporting cast around him isn’t up to par - or up to a championship level.
As for the Nets and Brooklyn, they’re definitely going there, but when? They won’t be there by 2010, which is when LB can opt out. They might not even be there by 2011, when LB’s contract runs out altogether. If they want to use that new location, new arena, and New York market as a recruiting pitch to LeBron, they better move quick. But I don’t see it happening.
The odds are stacked far higher against the Knicks and the Nets than most people care to realize.
July 5th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Out of curiosity, will you agree to run out to halfcourt naked at halftime and toss onion rings on your own wang if you are as dead wrong as you are likely to be? Or will you simpy pretend that you never wrote any of this stuff?
July 5th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I meant simply, not simpy. I’m not sure what simpy is.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:30 am
DaveH-
If I’m wrong (and I wasn’t in 2006 or 2007, and I won’t be this time either), you know where to find me. Right here where you can tell me whatever you want and make me take my lumps. I’m not like Dan Shanoff where I shoot off my mouth and say whatever I want while moderating comments and then when I’m wrong, I pretend like I didn’t say anything. That’s not what I do.
As far as onion rings on my wang…I have no idea what goes through your mind, dude. No idea.
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