Tiki Barber Planning a “Tell-All” Book?
Could former Giants running back Tiki Barber really be thinking about breaking the most important unwritten rule in sports? It’s common knowledge that what happens in the locker room, stays in the locker room — but is looks like Barber is choosing to ignore that motto.
Apparently, Barber is planning a tell-all book detailing “what is really going on behind the scenes in those steamy, sweaty locker rooms,” according to gossip all-star Cindy Adams.
By the end of his career, Barber was known for shooting off his mouth — in fact, he had no problems throwing his coach/teammates under the bus, so this shouldn’t come as a surprise. Barber backed out of the game and never thought twice about it. He became fixated on his post-NFL career and wanted to be the media.
Now he, like Jose Canseco before him, plans to air out the dirty laundry. Will his book make the NFL look as bad as Canseco’s did the MLB? That remains to be seen, but I can assure you that there are a lot of New York Giants fearing that there personal lives are about to be exposed.
And truthfully, this kind of news is depressing. What happened to you, Tiki Barber?
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92 Responses to “Tiki Barber Planning a “Tell-All” Book?”
June 24th, 2007 at 9:41 am
I was actually glad that Canseco wrote his book, even though he looked like he did it all for the money at the time, he still put the spotlight on Selig to do something…and things have changed, a little bit, because of it.
As for Tiki, grrr…I’m getting SO freaking tired of him wanting the spotlight with everything. He wants people to see and hear him so he gets his radio station and now has his news job.
So after all that he’s going to become a rat and squeal on people? Way to have a little class, Tiki…I’m getting so sick of him, he sounds like a weasel the more you think about it…everything is always about him. Coughlin helped create him and he never thanks Coughlin. It’s the Tiki-show, that’s all he cares about. Like him or not, but Eli Manning is the complete opposite…he won’t be a glory hog.
June 24th, 2007 at 9:47 am
What an a-hole Tiki has become. I used to think he was a class act. All he does these days is throw former coaches and teammates under the bus. He has no respect for anybody but himself. I guess fame went to his head. What a shame.
June 24th, 2007 at 9:57 am
The better he got the bigger his head got I guess. Other than that I really don’t know what got into him over the last year.
June 24th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Hey Dan
What do you mean what happend to you Tiki?
I’ve been telling you and everybody else that this bald headed stooge is the main reason why this team lacks heart and character. I hated this guy ever since he called out Strahan and not because I like Strahan but because it was none of his business and he should not talk smack when he had just signed a big deal prior to that. This guy is all about himself and all about his career in tv… Everybody told me last year that Tiki was the best and that he is a true Giant and I never thought that he was… I always thought that he was a selfish prick that nobody on the team liked… Now that he is gone this team still has some cancers left… Strahan is one and so is SHockey…..Once this roster is overturn then we can see consistency from this team year in and year out….
June 24th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Galo - I say that because Tiki wasn’t always like that. It’s been a two-year turn for him.
As for overturning the roster and making them more consistent, that would be a legit point had they not made the playoffs each of the last two seasons. Sadly, that’s the most consistent they’ve been in over a decade.
In fact, since Shockey and Strahan have been on the same team, the Giants have made the playoffs three of the last five years.
June 24th, 2007 at 10:14 am
barber is just a deusch bag now. im actually glad he left, mayb we can focus on the main factor- football
June 24th, 2007 at 10:21 am
this is really upsetting…tiki is officially off the cool list
June 24th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Wow you guys have not even read the book yet and your buggin out, relax. None of you know what its gunna have in it,,,I doubt tiki is stupid enough to write a book as controversial as Canseco..Plus the guy still works for the NFL, he will be doing sunday night football on NBC. I dont think he wants the whole NFL hating him ..I do agree that when I saw tiki might write a book already I was like man tiki would you just relax for a minute.Most guys you dont hear from for awhile after they retire. But I guess thats not his style…But you guys are really overreacting..
June 24th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Tiki Barber is like school in summer, NO CLASS. I can’t believe this guy, if he plans doing something like that he should atleast wait ten years, until most of his ex-teammates are retired. You can’t do that especially to a team who is trying to get organized. I appreciate what he did for the Giants but that doesn’t give him the right to pull stunts like this one.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Comparing the greatest, and one of the most intelligent running backs in Giants history to Jose Canseco?
Talk about flying off the handle. You haven’t even seen the book yet.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:16 am
A chapter title for Tiki’s book…..
Satan: Life with Coughlin
June 24th, 2007 at 11:16 am
i hate tiki!
June 24th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Robstick - Please detail how I was wrong in my comparison. While I haven’t seen the book, it was explained as “what is really going on behind the scenes in those steamy, sweaty locker rooms.” Which, essentially, is exactly what Canseco did.
You write a book to get sales. So with that said, who really thinks the book is going to be around “Calling wives from the locker room” or “playing cards in the airplane.”
Tiki knows what sells — dirty laundry and drama sell.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:31 am
One of my friends, who is obviously lax of racial sensitivity, called him an “Uncle Tom” for this. While this is a poor choice of words to describe the disappointmnent in this prima donna, I am starting to resent this guy.
He is turning into a self-entitled, Parisian-esque, fake bourgeois, debutant. Screw you, Tiki Barber. Ride of into the sunset of slow, steady decline that we call retirement. Shut your mouth. I am glad he is vanished from our organization. Once again, screw you, Tiki Barber!
June 24th, 2007 at 11:43 am
I just hate how Tiki went from being the nice, soft-spoken guy to the guy who loves attention. That’s the only way to describe him now: Attention Whore.
He just has to have attention, it’s all about Tiki now. I loved Tiki when he was here, but it’s going to hurt his image. He’ll start talking about what happened behind CLOSED DOORS during meetings, if anyone on the team didn’t work well together, etc.
Plus he’ll blame Coughlin when he should be kissing Coughlin’s @ss! I’m not a huge Coughlin fan, I respect him, though I don’t think he’s that great of a player’s coach…but like him or not, he MADE Tiki. Tiki was a backup until he got forced into the starting role because of injuries and he only stayed there because Coughlin cured his fumbling problem. I just wish Tiki would be GRATEFUL for once and not act like he did everything on his own.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:44 am
Well, we’ll just have to win the Super Bowl for the next three years. That’s the only way we’ll be able to prove that it wasn’t the team holding back Tiki, but Tiki holding back the team.
June 24th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Dan you are right….what did happen to Tiki?
Perfect example of a primodonna player, who doesn’t care about anyone but himself. After Coughlin FIXED Tiki, tiki turns into a primodonna and bashes the guy who SAVED HIS CAREER.
Now he mgiht air dirty laundry.
Damn Tiki I hardly knew ya………
I say if the book is detrimental to the team then have Tiki BANNED from giants stadium and don’t retire his number.
on antoher note, why cant torbor wear number 52 so we can retire Carson’s number…??
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June 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Dan, you realize you just quoted a “gossip all-star” as your “proof” of the content of Tiki’s as yet unwritten book, right?
Again, as with nearly every article on here, people are reacting to things that haven’t even happened yet because somebody who “knows that dirt sells” has chosen to start a rumor specifically to get people like you riled up. At least wait until Tiki does something wrong before you crucify him for it.
I’m not saying it would surprise me if Tiki does go this route, but it’s completely retarded to convict anybody of anything based on the statements of a gossip columnist whose job is specifically to write inflammatory comments about people regardless of the facts.
I bet you the information she has is nothing more than “Tiki’s writing another book” and “it’s not another children’s book”.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
jfunk - You do realize it’s her job to get those stories, right? Her job isn’t to create the drama and gossip, her job is to find it out and report it.
Not to mention, this kind of thing goes right along with who Tiki has been the last two years.
Whether or not it actually happens remains to be seen. My money would be on Tiki doing it though.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Exactly Jfunk, all of a sudden gossip monger Cindy Adams has the inside scoop on NFL news. Maybe she knows who Larry Johnson will play for next year too! C’mon guys, you can’t let this possibility of a book throw you into a shark like feeding frenzy. It’s just a way to garner more interest. You would figure living in the media capitol of the world you’d be used to overblown stories that hold no water just to catch your attention. Get a grip and don’t believe every little snippet that you read as gospel.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
i’ve gotta say, i’m geeting really tired of Tiki Barber. What a woman. He walks out on the giants, in his prime, forsing the team to among many other issues, deal with losing his talents as a runner, receiver and past protector. He announces his leaving mid-season then proceedes to talk sh*t the entire season. Then he officially leaves to take on a gig as a talking head on such features as new toys, or a token fill in for Al Rocker when he is on vacation. Not to mention, he is generally a fish out of water, smilling alot but saying very lttle. Now he’s going to take his sh*t talking to the printing press. He has quickly gone from one of my favorite Giants all day, to one of the people in this world i hate most.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
this is why NY loves it’s defense more than it’s offense forever……well tight ends get a bump too(Bavarro, Shockey)
LT wouldnt take this shit from Tiki.
good ridense, tiki was teh cause of revolt, this team looks good without him despite what critics say. The defense is back in NY.
June 24th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I’m tired of being p.o.’d over Tiki. I have a different subject.
Dan-I’d love to hear you thoughts on this.
I think we can all agree that with Deihl and Seubert starting this year we’d be in better shape with more depth. Right now our #2 TE position is up in the air. Why not bring in Kyle Turley? He’s a vet who will only be around for a year or two more so Boss doesnt need to feel any sort of way about it. He came in as a TE but started last year at LT and RT for the Chiefs. He’d be a huge bodies good blocking TE for us to step into our #2 role and be an extra depth player at OL incase of injury.
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Here’s a nice write up on Turley still wanting to play….
Despite rumors that he might retire for good following his unceremonious release by the Kansas City Chiefs earlier this spring, veteran offensive tackle Kyle Turley is ready to give football another try.
Turley, who missed the entire 2004 and 2005 seasons because of a herniated disc and related back woes, but then signed with Kansas City and actually opened the 2006 campaign as the starting left tackle, quietly worked out for Chiefs officials this week, ESPN.com has learned.
And he is ready to audition for other teams, too, if they are interested.
A onetime iron man, Turley appeared in seven games for the Chiefs in 2006 after signing a two-year contract with Kansas City. He was the No. 1 left tackle for the first two games last season, then lost the starting job and suffered through a stretch of injuries, but had a five-game stretch beginning in early November in which he started at right tackle.
Clearly, the eight-year veteran had plenty of rust in 2006 and it didn’t help that he attempted to play with his weight in the 280s. There are tight ends in the NFL bigger than that and the tough-guy Turley was tossed around at times by defensive linemen he would have handled easily in the prime of his career. But Turley, who will turn 32 in September, has built his weight back up and was 302 pounds at his workout in Kansas City this week. And he is said to be motivated to make up for lost time.
People close to Turley, who originally wanted to make his return to the NFL as a tight end, say that he prefers now to sign with a team that will provide him an opportunity to play right tackle, the spot at which he starred for New Orleans (1998-2002) and St. Louis (2003-2004). The former San Diego State star, a first-round pick of the Saints and the seventh overall player selected in the ‘98 draft, was always a natural right tackle because of his blend of power, nastiness and drive-blocking skills.
No word yet as to whether the Chiefs, whose once stable offensive line is suddenly in a state of flux with the retirements of tackle Willie Roaf and guard Will Shields over the past two offseasons, are going to give Turley another shot. The current projected starter at right tackle is veteran Chris Terry, who played well after assuming the starting job last season, but has suffered some off-field problems in the past.
Whether Turley can return to the former of his early career, when he was among the NFL’s most feared and notorious blockers, remains to be seen. But the fact his weight has returned nearly to previous levels, when he typically played at 309 pounds and was able to maul defensive linemen, certainly is a plus.
Having been released by two franchises in two years — the Rams jettisoned him in June 2005 after two years of inactivity and then the Chiefs dispatched him this March — has provided Turley a source for rededicating himself and wanting to prove the skeptics wrong. What he needs now is a team willing to take another chance on him.
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Normally I’d let a guy like this go. But I’m not calling for him to be brought in to try to start at LT. I’m saying he’d be a solid blocking TE who could also help us if our line got in injury problems. Thoughts?
June 24th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Once we get rid of Shockey the roster turnover will be complete.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
This book is a terrible idea…
Tiki played his entire career as a Giant. He wont be talking about what happens in “NFL” locker rooms, he can only talk about what happened in the Giants locker room, and that is BS if he is gonna do that to his team.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Luzz,
SHockey goes balls out, you try playing with a broken finger and bum ankle AND get a first down with your helmet off with brian dawkins in your face.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Is anyone surprised by this? I’ll always love what Tiki was able to do on the field for us, but beyond that, good riddance. IMO, he began to get a bit pompous around the 04 season. His comments and the way he answered questions, I dunno, maybe Im reaching, but it seemed to me like a grandiose attitude was just beneath the surface. This past season it was in full view though, and his pursuit of fame, fortune, and an open microphone is going to alienate many of his fans, if it hasnt already.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Shockey is GOD…enough said. This guy can do no wrong in my eyes. Hell, I wish he’d marry my sister just so I could get in his family. Shockey IS the GIANTS!!! By the way, if Shockey was President, the war would have been over by now because he would have went over ther himself, killed 6,000,000 enemies by himself, captured Sadam’s and Bin Laden’s heads on sticks, and returned home as a five-star general…doing this ALL without a helmet, of course.
June 24th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I know Underdog is feeling the same
June 24th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
im not surprised one bit…….
June 24th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Hey Dan-
You say that we made the playoffs 3 out of the last 5 years. Well in all those 3 years besides the melt down in San Fran was the last 2 Giant playoff teams worthy of anything… THey got shut out at home vs the Panthers and last year they backed into the playoffs with an 8-8 record and got beat again in the first round.. When was the last time this team won a playoff game…. Not since 2000 so in almost 8 years we have no playoff wins… Look at it that way instead of the backing in plan and the loudmouths…. Look at a team like the Eagles… Consistent all the time… They have 1 super bowl appearance but 4 straight NFC title games… I mean we cant even get out of the first round… And all we are known for is talking and calling out coaches and players…
June 24th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Galo:
Where was Tiki in those 3 playoff games?
June 24th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Galo — The Giants are certainly a maddeningly inconsistent team. I think we can all agree that this has been the case ever since the Fassel era. Nobody is happy about this. And the first-round playoff losses aren’t impressive either (though, you gloss over the fact that last year’s Eagles playoff game was a toss-up). But do we REALLY wish we were the Eagles???
When we go and lose in the first round, it hurts, but we at least get a high draft pick. I’d rather get it over with and draft higher than get to the NFC title game every year and lose, then only make the big show because we bought T.O., whose presence killed them and has had after effects that have screwed up the team for at least 2 subsequent years. The Eagles aren’t exactly KNOWN for success at this point: hence the utter lack of championships. They’re the very, very poor man’s Bills from the late 80s-early 90s. Which is to say, nothing special.
We all want the Giants to step it up. But I will not compare them unfavorably to those losers in Philly and their fat loser coach.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Galo - But how is any of that Strahan or Shockey’s fault? My point was that they’ve been good enough to get there three of the last five years. Did those three times suck? Yes, but it’s like the lotto — gotta be in it, to win it.
I’d prefer them make the playoffs and lose, rather than not making them at all. And the reality is, Shockey and Strahan help them get there.
June 24th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
In addition, Galo, your comparison to the Eagles is contradictory in that a certain loudmouth got them to the Super Bowl. And it’s funny how I always see their not-so-quet quarterback involved in drama as well.
I’ll remind you that Strahan is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, and will likely break the best defensive player of all time’s team sack record in the beginning of this season (official sack count in the early 80s aside, my point is clear). I’ll also remind you that this team’s record with Strahan not in the starting lineup over the past 3 years is horrendous. I guess he really is a bad guy to have lining up every Sunday.
I could care less about the book, Tiki Barber was a cancer to this team. Sure Shockey said “we were outplayed AND outcoached,” god forbid saying that it was an entire team that lost, not just the players. And also, god forbid he wants the damn ball. Keyshawn Johnson wrote a book on the subject, and he’s got a ring.
My point is, young players always make mistakes. Shockey has certainly made plenty of them. But 32 year old veterans who don’t shut up are clearly in it for themselves. I certainly doubt you’ll ever hear Shockey say he’s retiring because he’s sore 3 days after a game…
June 24th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
what do u guys think about trading for samelus from the pat’s i think if we give them a 2rounder and Sam Madison, or maybe Webster or even both they may think about it. what you guys think
June 24th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Great talent. Too expensive.
Dan-What do you think about Turley?
June 24th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Murphy,
you could’nt have phrased my feelings over Shockey any better…….except the sister part, I don’t have a sister.
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Benton,
Any mroe rumbings on the S.draft?
June 24th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Dan:
We made the playoffs by default. We were 8-8 and lost every big game down the stretch, that is hardly being consistent.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Joe:
Shockey is completley about himself. Gilbride installed new offense and Palmer is giving Eli a lot of new work for drills. All coaches agreed that it was very important this year more then ever for Plax and Shockey to be here and they disappeared. Bottom line, Shockey wants to get ripped and go out in Miami beach, he could care less about winning a Super Bowl other then all of the accolades and a$$ that comes with hit. He is hardly a team player like a Jerry Rice or Marvin Harrison or Mark Bavaro. Those are guys the win Championships, not guys that are quoted as saying the workouts here aren’t good enough and calling out the entire staff.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
GMAN24:
Accorinding to many bloggers here, the Giants have no cap room to sign anyone. Is Kevros out there, if so , back me up here.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Dan at 14:
I think Tiki is a sell out, going on Fox News of all places, what a joke to his culture.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Tony.C,
Shockey was there, where were you?
June 24th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Unlike Canseco, if Tiki wanted to work in the leauge today he could. If Tiki does actually write this book and throws guys under the bus to get some buzz about him in the meida as this “great reporter” he’s a traitor and no giant should ever speak his name again…..
June 24th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Tony C.
How did coming to Jersey in the offseason work out for Finn this year?
Not to support Tiki, but part of the reason he didn’t want to return was the rigor of training; he doesn’t want to go through the grind with Couglin. Players have complained about how hard he works them, full pads in December, etc. But I refuse to go further into the endless argument on this board regarding showing up in March. Lord knows if the box gets opened again we may still be talking about it 3 weeks from now…
June 24th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
When Tiki retired I wondered if he had accomplished enough to deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame. In my eyes it would have been close, but I thought he deserved it. However, w/ all he has done and said since he retired. You could probaly put him in the Hall of SHAME. I never thought I would use ill words about a man who I admired and respected, as a player and a person. But now my views have completely changed. All I can say is I hope Tiki comes to his senses and decides against writing this book.
June 24th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
I hope he has no intention of showing his face in Giant’s Stadium again or I’m sure he’ll get a hugh Giant reception. Tiki, never burn bridges. Oh, to late? Then suffer the consquences fool. Adios. Wow wouldn’t it be something if he’s the first announcer to be boo’d out of a stadium. I wouldn’t want to lye in the bed he’s making for himself.
June 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
an odd thing about life is its circularity;what goes round DOES come round and character is fate.if tiki writes such a book,he had better get used to looking over his shoulder;a bad fate will await.
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June 24th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
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June 24th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Tony C.
i was woundering if thier is a link that maybe you or any1 knows about to follow the teams cap. anyway, even if we dont have the money as of this moment u dont think tradeing madison and webster would help make cap room for him, i honestly feel if this man is tradable then
June 24th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
I think everyone’s being too hard on Tiki. What he said when he “threw coaches and teammates under the bus” was absolutely true. We were being out-coached and we all saw that and we were all expressing that. We were all frustrated with how the past 2 seasons have gone and we all said something about it. Why can’t Tiki? It’s not like he unleashed some big secret or anything, he was just speaking the truth.
Tiki was the greatest RB the Giants have ever seen and he’s responsible for most of our success the past couple of years. How about everyone stops being a hypocrite and “throwing him under the bus.”
June 24th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
sorry, but if samules is up for a trade then the giants should make every attemp to get this man, with him in the back field, it will make this team that much better, maybe trying to get him for 3 years. this is somthing i doubt will happen but if possable we should try
June 24th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
granted the whole tiki thing is out of hand and if he loves this team and the city he wouldnt open his mouth. and plus the topic of being out coach, granted we were but it was somthing that everyone know and he only stated that to make his bad play understandable, im glade that tiki is gone and couldnt be more happy and now we have the biggest RB in the game starting for us. so here is to a new begining
June 24th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Tiki played like a hall of famer but he certainly doesn’t act like one.
June 24th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
A man who “leaves on his own terms” will never be received well in the public’s eye. Not that it matters one bit to him, but with leaving after running for 1600 yards and running his lip the entire way out, he has himself to blame.
Troy, “throwing someone under the bus”, albeit a slang phrase, must mean something completely different to me than it does to you. Typically, the way I take it, you “throw someone under the bus” in an act to place blame onto someone else for a failure that you are in fact partially to blame for. Such as a player saying “we wouldn’t have won the game if he hadn’t fumbled the ball.” With that said, we are all pointing the finger at Tiki Barber for being a loud mouth, me-first football player, and we’re all in the third party.
So, no, we’re not being hypocritical. Yes he was a fantastic running back, yes we will have a hard time replacing him between the chalk. But it’s a team game, you can’t say he’s responsible for most of our success Why not give Burress credit, since he’s been in the playoffs every year he’s been here? And, I shouldn’t have to remind you that Tiki was never considered an elite back until Coughlin came to town and changed the way he ran with the ball.
Finally, you ask “why can’t Tiki [say something about it]?” Well, he’s supposed to be a leader on the team. Strange thing about this team and this city, everyone wants to bash Eli for not being a leader, but has he ever caused needless drama with his mouth? His lame duck throws yes, but never takes his frustration out in the media. I’m sure he’d love to, but he doesn’t. Why? Because he’s clearly got more leadership qualities than Tiki; or, Tiki doesn’t care about the concept of “team”; or both.
Bottom line, as a Giants fan, I would have a hard time voting the guy into Canton, with his 2 Pro Bowls.
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As far as Samuel, I would be a kid on Christmas if he came to New Jersey, but let’s be real. An aging Madison, and Webster who hasn’t proved anything, for him? New England isn’t considered one of the best teams of our era for making moves like this. But if Jerry Reese could pull that heist off, that would be fantastic.
June 24th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Honestly, after the draft…now I dont want Samuels. Now I’m happy we have two older guys like Madison and McQuarters because we have young studs in Ross, Underwood and Dockery and Webster who could be a stud if he plays in press coverage like LSU. Now he’ll get his chance. If those guys are ever going to take over as the future starters we need guys who will move out of those rolls so McQuarters and Madison are important to us as our young guys learn how to play in the NFL.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
All thisTiki bashing…Who know’s what he will write and who cares. Many other retired players wrote biogarphy’s. LT wrote one. Are you pissed off at him. He also crossed the picket lines during the players strike. So that means that he wasn’t a “team player.” Tiki was the best running back the Giants ever had. Now your blamming him for everything that went wrong since we got blown out of the Super Bowl. Find something posative to write about instead of this bullshit.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Tiki you are just digging yourself a hole that you wont be able to get out of.
the great ones never do this crap, and the great ones never abandon the team.
LT left because his body was done, and when he did leave, he wrote a NICE book, retelling about how great his teamates AND COACH were.
June 24th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
its more and more obvious now, that tiki was a cancer to the team in the locker room. he was a great palyer fou us, but he is going to quickly tarnish his football legacy by being a RAT and telling things that should be kept among the players. This guy has a real high opinion of himself and now that he walked away in his prime, stay away and leave the private stories.. private !! Very disappointed in his off field tyraids
June 24th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
don’t be surprised if he palys agian in 08, he is apparently an ego maniac and was disruptive behind the scenes. He needs to be in the spotlight for the giants to feed his grossly inflated ego
June 24th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Gianthinker @ 53 -
STUDS???
Underwood never played a reg. Season game, ross hasn’t played an NFL down yet, Webster has been trash his whole career.
What “studs” are you refering to?
June 24th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Chapter 1 of Tiki’s book,
“How I like to take it up the butt, and how Ronde likes it down his throat.”
Chapter 2,
“Meanie Coughlin”
Chapter 3,
“In the shower, I noticed Brandon Jacobs has a big UH-OH”
Chapter 4,
“I’m smarter than all of you”
Chapter 5,
“Jerimiah Trotter, and his milarky after the play is over!”
Chapter 6,
“How I backstabbed the person who saved my career(mean mean Coughlin)”
Chapter 7,
“Luke Pettigout has really big feet, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!”
Chapter 8,
“I married an oriental because I have a small HELMET”
Chapter 9,
“Opportunities are seldom………..hey screw you Giants, hello FOX!!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Mike G-I agree fully with what you just said. This is why I find comming on the Giants part of this website hilarious. This kid here giantthinker calls guys like Webster, Ross, and Underwood “studs”. But like what Mike G said, Ross has yet to ever play 1 NFL snap-Webster has been terrible his tenure while in the league-and Underwood has never set foot on an NFL field. Besides what gianthinker previously said, I saw Giants fans saying other BS. Ive seen Brandon Jacobs getting annouinted as the next Jim Brown. Ive also seen Steve Smith getting compared to Isaac Bruce and Marvin Harrison. LOL you guys make me laugh. Anyways go Dallas Cowboys!! 2007 NFC East Champions and eventually Super Bowl Champions!!
June 24th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
fiacolet - those bitch ass cowgirls haven’t won the east or a playoff game since the mid-90s try telling that bitch ass qb of yours to hold on to the ball, not that he’ll get the chance since the girls won’t even make the playoffs anyway. I’m gonna enjoy watching Giants kick the cowgirls ass this year. G-MEN!!!!
June 24th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Mike G-Do you watch football? Webster was a stud as a rookie and had a injury filled season of playing zone as a press corner. Underwood is very talented if you watched him in college and watched film of him at camp. Ross is a top 20 selection. Dockery was one of our best CBs last year. Those are 4 young up and coming CBs none of which have the pressure of having to start. I said stud, not probowlers. They are studs because they have promise to start. They are studs because we are changing from a zone secondary to a man secondary and these guys are man CBs. Young studs are young guys there to learn and step into the starting roles in the future. Probowlers, since thats how you’re interpreting my ’stud’ label, are starters who dont lose their jobs. Madison and McQuarters can hold it down this year and then the young guys can take over. Learn football before you talk ish.
…And “This kid here giantthinker”, which is gianthinker with one T thank you, is probably older than you and has forgotten more about football than you’ll ever know. I’ve played championship high school ball. Played college ball and I’ve coached high school ball. Please…….
June 24th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
fiacolet- Get out of here. Dallas is not winning the super bowl. You must be upset because there is nobody to talk to over at your own team’s site.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Oh come on, he hasn’t even written it yet. A bit early to be slamming him for it.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:18 am
Im late as usual, being in california and all, but I will throw in my 2 cents anyway (as usual).
I’m not really sure what exactly will be in that book, but im not joining in on the public flogging of one of the greatest players in giants history, just yet. First lets see whats in the book, then fling judgements. People are coming out now saying that they’ve always known tiki was a bastard and whatever, but what, he voiced his anger about strahan’s contract demands, and about the play calling and coaching, oh maaaan… he’s such a horrible person. I agreed with his opinion of the coaching and i was glad someone on the team spoke out about it. If he says a bunch of bad crap about the persistent cough and other coaches, or about the seedy world of nfl management and front office personnel in his book, I wouldnt be sshocked by what I will probably read.(remember the texans passing on reggie bush?) if he starts naming peoples’ involvement in drug parties and cheating on thier wives and steroids and all that about his former nfl’ers, then yes, I will be dissappointed. Its already hard enough being a fan trying to drown out all the other inconsistensies in the league, the ref’s, the agents greed, etc etc without finding out my team is a bunch of dirtbags on gameday. but again lets wait for the book.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:56 am
Tennant,
I am trying to join up. However, it is not recognizing the sign-in information. Post it again and be careful to include any spaces or anything case sensitive. Looking forward to whooping your A$$!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:58 am
Tennant,
Nevermind, I’m in…I wan’t in the free games. Thanks for getting one started.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:55 am
gianthinker,, did you just say corey webster had a stud of a rookie year? What games were u watching dude..The only good stretch of games Webster ever had was the preseason of his rookie year,I think he had a few int’s in that preseason..haa ever since then I think all of us giant fans are still waiting for him to show us something…There is prob no shot of getting asante samuels but he would automatically be the best cornerback we have had since a healthy Sehorn, so I dont know why any giant fan wouldnt want him…..
June 25th, 2007 at 6:32 am
This come as no surprise to me, let’s face the fact tiki is for tiki and no one else he show no character at all last season when he open his mouth and told the football world that he was going to quit after the season, I can not for the life of me understand why he decided to do this at mid’season instead of saying what his intentions were at the beginning of the season as every other player has. I’m a true BLUE Giant fan and too tell you the truth I wish this guy never wore my team colors
June 25th, 2007 at 7:40 am
I bet there’s a Strahan chapter or two.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:25 am
There is no I in team, but there are 2 I’s in Tiki. It’s all about him. Pretty much self absorbed since his retirement ‘leaked’ to the press last year.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:40 am
I agree with Shawn. The best running back the Giants have ever had. He played his butt off. If you are a fan of the team then you care about his performance on the field, you don’t have to love his personality. If Tiki was such a distraction to the team then they should have gotten rid of him. To blame him for everything that went wrong for the last several years is the stupidest thing I ever heard.
LT was the biggest a-hole off the field, but he is idalized because he was a great player.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:18 am
Stu H- Tiki is not LT.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:56 am
Tiki was the man and will always be the man. for those who are angry at the prospect of Tiki potentially disclosing unflattering “secrets” about our beloved Giants, I say vote for Dick Cheney for President in 2008. His attitude towards rtransparency is the same
June 25th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Dan S:
Tiki is not LT nobody was. I was just making an example. Tiki is a lot better citizen than LT who wrote a tell all bio. Tiki was a terrific player and an asset to the team not a problem. The guy never missed a game. Why all the Tiki bashing? I don’t get it.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:29 am
Fitz-Talent wise Samuel is great. Would he be a welcome addition? Yes. Money wise he’d be way out of our price range and kill our salary cap. Plus like I said we have young guys who will step in as soon as next year that we already have on contract and are much cheaper. Thats why we dont want Samuel. If this was Madden, yeah, you take him right away. But You want to send two 1st RD picks AND pay a boat load of money to him? I dont. And I’ll stick to that.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:43 am
STU H From what you say , it’s ok for tiki to throw everyone under the bus ,but heven forbid anyone gives it to him . More then once he has called himself ” a great back ” ,like he did everything by himself . He has shown himself to a selfcentered “me person ” .
June 25th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
I said it way back when Tiki critcized the play calling (and his quote,” Fox outcoached Coughlin”) after the Carolina playoff game;He was insubordinate.Anytime a player can get away with criticizing his coach in the press that coach will never have the authority with his team.Coughlin shouldn’t have showed Tiki on film how he was right with the playcalling.He should have unilaterally fined and suspended him for one game the following season.
That way it would have stopped Shockey, Burress and anyother player from mouthing off.From the moment Coughlin let Tiki get away with criticizing him in the press he became a lameduck coach.POWERLESS!!!
Coughlin has the rep as a no nonsense disiplinarian,but he blew the biggest moment,which will mark his legacy as a coach with the Giants.
Tiki was an ungrateful selfcentered player and now he is a media person with his own agenda;who cannot be objective in his reporting.He should FOREVER be barred from the Giant locker room,media room and press confrences.He is a CREEP!!!
June 25th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
bbwc…From what you posted I guess you are saying that we weren’t outcoached by Carolina? Is it possible for Coughlin to justify that coaching performance?
I winced when Tiki made the comment about being outcoached, but not because I didn’t think so, just that it seemed like something better left unsaid outside the locker room. Even though I don’t like Coughlin I felt bad for him.
I guess I do think less of Tiki because of the comments. But I don’t think you can blame Tiki for Coughlin becomming a lame duck coach. He did that to himself by not replacing some of his coaches before it was too late. In the end the front office made him the lame duck that he is, and they didn’t do it because of what Tiki said.
June 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
For those thinking, Tiki hasn’t written the book yet, guess again. Here’s the cover from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Tiki-My-.....amp;sr=8-5
The book comes out in September, which means it is probably in its final edits before going to print.
June 25th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Tom C
We’re talking the same language.Whether Coughlin was successful was up to him.Tiki undermined the entire team structure by taking it to the press.I am old school; if an employee of mine has a gripe I will listen and be fair and try to resolve it.If they deal with it in any other fashion but up front man to man( no matter how valuable to the firm they are)they are gone.
When someone opens their yap inappropriately it cannot be ignored.If it is,you set a precident of disorganization regardless of what type of company you run.
Football players,today, are very much like children they are testing their boundries.Tiki got away with that and knew he was in control and I for one am glad he is gone.Now if he would only Shut UP
June 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Yes and it’s called “My life in the game and beyond” Doesn’t sound like the steamy tell all title everyone thought it would be. Sounds more autobiographical about HIM playing football and what he does after football.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Okay people, let he who did not agree with tiki after the carolina debacle cast the first stone. Foxy WAS in the huddle. Giants coaches literally were lost and didnt know what to do, ESPECIALLY in the passing game. The players run the plays that are called and the panthers ran thier plays too.
again, can we just wait for the book?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Guard 53: I don’t see where Tiki threw the entire team under the bus. Because he spoke the truth. As for the coaching staff the offensive and defensive co-ordinators got fired and Tom the great disciplinarian had a team that made the same stupid misstakes over and over again, they where totally undisciplined. Who knows if Shockey and Plax would have shut up if they made an example of Tiki. Do you see what has happened to a lot of these veteran players that are down and out and get no help from the league or the players association. These guys get the crap kicked out of them playing football, it takes it’s toll on them. Barber is bright and articulate and I see nothing wrong with him promoting himself. It’s his future not ours. Was everyone jumping all over him when he was running for 200 yards? I doubt it.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:42 am
Who cares what he does…
June 26th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Up until a short time ago I had all the respect in the world for Tiki. I thought he was one of the best backs in the league. As it turns out it is all about Tiki, he certainly had me fooled. Not really looking forward to his book what happens in the locker room or internally on a team should stay that way anyone with any class at all would not break that rule.
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