Clinton Portis: dog fighting is no big deal
Clinton Portis strongly backed Michael Vick in the dog fight scandal, saying Vick has the right to do whatever he wants to do with the beasts. Portis made the comments during an interview with WAVY TV. A gasp was heard from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Joe Gibbs was treated for clinched orifices.
The annual Washington Redskins Beach Blitz in Virginia Beach, VA, is the team’s marketing program to buff its image with its fans while extracting a little money on the side. The farthest thing on the team’s mind was to get stuck in the Michael Vick dog fighting tar pit. The property raided by police, and recently sold by Vick, is in nearby Surry County. Portis, who runs with abandon through sticky situations, apparently speaks that way, too.
The interview with Portis is on the WAVY web site, but it did not load as I wrote this piece. Here is how Joe Bryant of FootballGuys.com reported the interview in an email to his subscribers:
“Said Portis, ‘I don’t know if he was fighting dogs or not but it’s his property, it’s his dog. If that’s what he wants to do, do it. You know? What people do behind close doors…
“The reporter interjected, ‘But that’s a felony. It’s a crime.’
“Portis didn’t seem fazed, ‘That can’t be too bad of a crime.
‘You want to hunt down Michael Vick over fighting some dogs. I think people should mind their business.
‘You take somebody that’s doing positive in the community. You take a positive role model and put them behind bars for no reason, you know. Over a dog fight?’
“When asked if Portis thought it was prevalent in the NFL or NBA Portis said, ‘It’s prevalent in life. I’m from Laurel, Mississippi. I know a lot of backroads that’s got a dog fight if you want to go see it, you know?’ “
Chris Samuels, who hails from Alabama, seemed surprised by Portis’ comments. He said that we need to see how this shakes out and if anyone is convicted.
A corroborating story may be found on the Covering The Redskins blog.
The Humane Society of the U.S., in a May 3, 2007 letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, wrote “We believe that the current situation involving Michael Vick is indicative of a larger subculture within the NFL of dog fighting and other forms of violence against animals.” The Society labelled dog fighting an underground criminal industry and called on Goodell to join them in crafting a zero-tolerance policy for NFL players and staff for animal cruelty.
This being Washington, and the Vick story so widely spread, a politician was sure to jump in. U.S. Rep. Tom Lantos (D) urged the commissioner to act “swiftly and forcefully” if Vick is found to have been involved in dog fighting. Lantos is from California, not Virginia, not Georgia.
Portis, a genuine good guy, could have shown more discretion in defending Vick by pointing out that no charges have been filed against Vick and that the full facts have yet to emerge, rather than stating that Vick has a privacy right to break the law because he owns the dogs. By so doing, he reinforced the Humane Society’s contention of a dog fighting subculture among NFL players.
Please tell me Portis has no dog in this fight.
5/21/07 UPDATE: Clinton Portis released the following statement that appeared on ExtremeSkins.com, the official fan forum of The Washington Redskins.
“In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner.”
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90 Responses to “Clinton Portis: dog fighting is no big deal”
May 21st, 2007 at 8:58 am
Portis loses his “genuine good guy” title by all but advocating dog fighting. NEW FLASH Portis - You are NOT allowed to do WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS when what you want to do is a felany. Behind closed doors? Are you kidding me? I guess spousal abuse should be OK under the same thinking.
Portis - he’s a “real” redskin.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
I like to think he was really trying to stand behind Vick, but made his case stupidly and illogically. Owning a gun or a car doesn’t give you a right to use them in a crime. Same with dogs. Animals are living things. There is a higher standard in their use and care.
Chris Samuels made the better case. We know the suspicion, but not (yet) the facts the investigators found, nor the conclusions the prosecutor will reach. Vick is entitled to a presumption of innocence; and CP is in need of some PR coaching.
PR rule #1: pro athletes never condone breaking the law — whatever their personal view. Like it or not, when they speak, they are spokesmen for their team and their fans, as Chris Samuel or Joe Gibbs might have told Clinton by now.
I still think CP is a genuine guy.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:18 am
Anthony - OK, I’ll grant you that Portis (hopefully) isn’t as callous as this interview makes him, but to essentially shrug off a crime that causes a great deal of harm and abuse to come to animals, come on man, you don’t have to be PETA to know that’s wrong.
And I note that Portis is no media rookie either, he knows the press well enough to know not to say things like “its OK to abuse dogs and commit felonies as long as you do it privately.” The sad, sad thing is that since he knows of all these dog fighting locations, he probably has visited them. Heck, he might be the guy with the video of Vick at the dog fights.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:19 am
[…] In a ludicrous defense of Michael Vick’s alleged dogfighting, Clinton Portis said “It’s prevalent in life. I’m from Laurel, Mississippi. I know a lot of backroads that’s got a dog fight if you want to go see it, you know?” Well done, Clinton. More positive press for our fair state. […]
May 21st, 2007 at 10:41 am
I have a terrific idea. Get Vick and Portis and lock them in a 20′ X 20′ cage. Give them each a butcher knife and tell them that the last one left alive gets to leave. I know I’d buy a ticket.
What a pair of gutless scumbags.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:51 am
This is overkill. Please point out the good side of Michael Vick and Clinton Portis before you put both of them behind bars. Also don’t ever think that this started with Michael Vick, I remember dog fighting when I was growing up in the 60’s. Maybe the Humane Society is not doing what they are suppose to do, because dog fighting is still happening.
May 21st, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I guess expecting Portis to attend at least one English class at Miami was asking too much!!! At least he should have been made to take the class that teaches you to shut your mouth when asked something by any reporter, when you cannot even articulate a logical thought.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:21 pm
DJW - Ok, the 1960s? Its 2007 man. I don’t know the exact rules back then, but things change and dog fighting is definitely ILLEGAL in all 50 now. Times change, feelings change. Hey, women were subservient nothings in the 1890s, it must be OK today, right?
The good side of Mike Vick?? Which one, the one that donated a whole $10,000 to V Tech after the shooting, the one that skipped a lunch with Congress, the one that shot the double bird to Atlanta fans including children or the one that fights dogs to the death?
May 21st, 2007 at 1:54 pm
By condoning the “it’s okay as long as you are on your own property” logic, Clinton Portis basically said as long as you don’t get caught, it’s okay. Tell that to a parent whose child was abducted or abused or even murdered by someone in their own home. Tell that the victim of a rape. These dogs are tought to fight to the death. And to think that athletes who make millions of dollars need to make a few more dollars on the death of another one of God’s creatures is dispicable. We are the supposed highest order of life on the planet. We need to start acting like it!
May 21st, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Oh, and I forgot the one where he keeps a water bottle with secret compartments with green, sweet smelling particulate for his, (cough cough), em, um, jewelry.
He’s despicable, and CP is only a step away after his latest comments.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:22 pm
He’s a twenty something year old football player, He’s not a great philosopher. Keep it in perspective.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:56 pm
If Clinton Portis doesn’t see the harm in training dogs to fight to the death, then he wasn’t raised right. It’s a felony for a damn good reason: it’s not only extremely cruel to the dogs, it also goes hand in hand with drugs, weapons and illegal gambling. Those are NOT victimless crimes, and anyone who supports dogfighting should be behind bars.
May 21st, 2007 at 2:58 pm
You don’t have to be a philospher to be a good person. I’m not asking for Socratic thoughts from him on the nature of being; I’m asking for him to act like any self-respecting human being and not to condone the abuse of animals
May 21st, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Bryan- the entire concept flew over your head. What I was trying to say was just because it is illegal doesn’t mean it has stop. What has the Humane Society done to enforce it more than just a law. Look how long it took to the police to catch on to this activty.
Also Michael Vick is innocent until proven quilty. Isn’t that an American statute, so why are you breaking it by accusing him of it?? People break laws every day, its not right but it happens. My condolences goes out to all of the Va Tech families and staff and students. But remember Michael Vick played for VT and I am sure VT made their money from him so don’t give me all he did kinda statement.
You said he’s despicable, seems like Bryan has some issues of his own.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Bryan- How can you possibly knock anyone for donating any amount of money to Virginia Tech after that terrible tragedy? Even a $20 gesture constitutes a classy act. The fact that Vick would donate $10K of his own money is an amazing thing that I’m sure helped out alot of families. How much money did you give, Bryan?
May 21st, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Hey DJW, the Humane Society isn’t the FBI. They can’t “enforce” anything. “Innocent until proven guilty” isn’t an “American statute” either. Anybody who thinks it is ok to pit animals against one another in a death match is a psychopath and needs to be locked up. What, Vick and Portis are big time athletes so we should look the other way? Yeah right.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:36 pm
DJW-
I respect your opinion but the Humane Society is not a law enforcement agency. Their powers are extremely limited in stopping this disgusting activity.
In my state they are offering $1000 to anyone who can get them into a dog fight. They are trying.
The problem is… do you know what happens to a NARC who brings in HS or Law enforcement??
Yup…bad things.
It’s not that easy to stop this kind of thing. It takes a lot of courage to risk your own safety to shut something like this down.
In the meantime, be assured that “role models” such as Vick and Portis are letting our youth know that animal abuse is OK thereby enabling and empowering those who participate. Minimizing this by saying “this is overkill” isn’t helping either. This is actually underkill, something like this needs to be brought into the light even more. Law enforcement needs to step up more or else just like you said…it’s will still be happening.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Bryan, what? Michael Vick is so despicable for donating money to tech? Is 10k not enough for you? I know he has plenty of money to spend, but would donating 10 million make 32 lives come back? This 10k is nowhere near the first donation he’s made to the university. Horrible argument. Compartment in the water bottle? It’s not enough for him to be searched and go through the whole process with the airport as well as the police, but they must of just let him go because they’re all Falcons fans. And ah yes, the middle fingers. Please, let’s label every athlete who has ever had a moment of frustration after a game and reacted badly as despicable. Let’s actually ban them all from their sports. The NBA would need to borrow players from the NFL just to fill their starting lineups.
And now, for the grand finale: DOG FIGHTING. How about this. Why don’t we leave it to the professionals, and wait for a conclusion to this case? Yes? No? I love how everyone is like “He’s never at the house but he owns it? Bull****!” I’m sure he has many houses, and believe it or not, i’m sure his job as an NFL player keeps him pretty busy. Gilbert Arenas has a house up the street from me, but I have never once seen him at it, or outside it. I’m not spying on him by any means, but I look at his house every time I drive past it and there’s never anything going on there. Athletes are very BUSY people. It takes a lot of time and effort to run dog fighting, be a drug dealer, etc.
Oh yeah, Portis. I think it’s clear as day that judging by his comments he thinks its ok to rape and murder as long as it’s behind closed doors. He obviously didn’t mean what he said like he said it, because that would just be so idiotic that nobody in their right mind could say something like that with the intention of literally meaning “do whatever you want as long as you don’t tell anyone, that’s what i do =D”. His comment wasn’t smart, but to the unbiased reader it’s a lot easier to figure some of this stuff out. Portis made a mistake, but to say a tremendous financial contributer to to the greater DC community, as well as a role model for many, many children, is despicable after making that comment is just wrong. I would love to review a video tape of your life and point out every politically incorrect thing you’ve said, every curse word, every offensive joke, and every drunken stupid moment you may or may not have ever had. Nobody is perfect and i’m tired of reading an article online and then scrolling to the bottom where it’s full of people who think they are the world’s most perfect citizens. Everybody’s a critic. In my opinion, I simply believe Portis was just trying to cut Vick some slack, but he went too far with his comments and ended up hurting himself in the end.
May 21st, 2007 at 7:32 pm
What a moron. And those who think Portis was just “cutting Vick some slack” didn’t read the article clearly enough. His moronic comment was about dog fighting. It was this view that caused him to take Vick’s side in this.
Then again, I guess in D.C. dog fighting would be considered taking the high moral ground since so many there seem to lack any morals at all.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:33 pm
I think it’s sick that one or two people think that since Vick made a donation to Virginia Tech that he therefore should be held in high regard and seemingly be immune from prosecution when he breaks the law.
Dogfighting is disgusting. I’ve seen a pit bull that had been fought. His leg was broken and he was bleeding to death. People that put animals through that should be locked up.
Children, animals and many elderly people deserve special protection.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:39 pm
“I guess expecting Portis to attend at least one English class at Miami was asking too much!!! At least he should have been made to take the class that teaches you to shut your mouth when asked something by any reporter, when you cannot even articulate a logical thought. ”
since you’re so smart, please explain how you can articulate a thought, which has no sound….n00b
May 21st, 2007 at 10:30 pm
cloverman,
maybe you should look the word up before you begin coaching on its use……http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/articulate
“4. expressed, formulated, or presented with clarity and effectiveness: an articulate thought.”
you are no smarter than CP or Vick, maybe we should put you in a pit and fight you versus other idiots
May 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Unbelievably dumb statement by a moron. Even as a Cowboys fan, i like Portis…well, i did. This is really disappointing.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Dan,
You said: “I think it’s sick that one or two people think that since Vick made a donation to Virginia Tech that he therefore should be held in high regard and seemingly be immune from prosecution when he breaks the law.”
I believe if you go back and read over the statements made by the people here on this post, you will see that nobody said his actions were excusable because he donated money to Virginia Tech. I merely pointed out, and others agreed, that Vick’s gesture to the community of Virginia Tech was honorable. More importantly, it is also SEPARATE from dog fighting.
I’m pretty sure we all (with the exception of Portis) agree that dog fighting is wrong and that Vick should be punished if he’s involved in it. Therefore the debate here is over Vick’s character and actions.
Get it right.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:52 am
Clinton Portis is a danger to himself and others if he doesn’t know right from wrong. It was scary to hear this moron spew these unbelievable comments and it was equally appaling to see Chris Samuels act the coward and actually contribute his own foolish giggling, when he should have gotten in his face and told him to shut his pie hole. There are far too many ignorant athletes, especially in the NFL, and it doesn’t seem to be getting better. Remember also, these aren’t “shock jocks” we’re talking here, these are athletes selling their goods to decent people including many many young kids. No apologies are going to make a difference to me here. He spoke from the heart. I hope he loses all endorsements over this and plays his career out in Europe.
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:12 am
The whole point is that Portis goes beyond defending Vick’s right to innocent until proven guilty. He goes on to minimize dog fighting. He’s not an evil person for feeling the crime of dog fighting is no big deal, it’s just that his morals don’t represent the average persons morals when it comes to animal abuse. It’s a shame for Redskins fans who are great fans (I’m an Eagle fan) to have to have a player on THEIR team who has such a lack of concern for animals. Portis will have an incredibly hard time living this down and rightfully so.
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:41 am
commander - Actually, I think people who pit two dogs against each other in a battle to the death are pretty close to evil.
Matt - yeah, his $10,000 is nice, except when you realize that he has probably $100M in the bank. He gave to his alma mater during a time of need, and for that I say good job, and while no amount would bring those people back, to only donate $10K when you have nearly unlimited funds, well, it shows where his priorities are.
And its not that Vick has been convicted or that any one thing he has done, (except for the recent dog fighting allegations) are that bad, its the combination. Yeah, athletes (and myself) probably have given the finger at times, swore, whatever, but when you are role model, a sports figure, you have a different standard. One violation, ok, chalk it up to anger, but repeated vioations show a disrespect for yourself, the law and your position in society.
And Matt, I”m sure NFL players are very busy, but they still have time to go to clubs, pimp out women and I’m sure, during the months long offseason, that Vick could find time to dog fight, since he owns/runs a friggin Kennel.
And Matt - two more things - 1) what Arenas does has nothing to do with what Vick does 2) Vick SAID he never visited the house, but locals claim he’s there ALL THE TIME buying NEEDLES and other DOG supplies. Its not that he owns the house and is never there, its that he owns the house where dog fighting likely occured and LIED about never being there. If you got nothing to hide, you don’t lie.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:24 am
This is reprehensible on so many levels I hardly know where to start. I think its a short step from abusing an innocent animal to abusing a human. Maybe CP would have also condoned the killing of humans and animals for sport in the Coliseum of anceint Rome.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:51 am
Just another feather in the cap for our fine hip-hop culture. We above the law. Don’t snitch. Git yo’ money. Smack yo’ bitch. Even if CP is not “hip-hop”, many of his fans are. The average NFL fan, and non-fan, knows what he said was wrong. But there are a lot of brotha’s out there who just got the idea that they’re above the law reinforced. BTW, did anyone else get the impression that Vick didn’t know the meaning of the word “exonerated” which led to a “no-comment”?
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:31 am
It won’t be long before Portis volunteers for an hour in front of cameras at a Humane Society and this whole thing is over. Except for the dogfighting of course. And the continued thuggary in the NFL.
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:33 am
The Redskins should stop signing scumbags.. First you have Gangsta Sean Taylor and now, dumb@sses like Portis & Samuels. I will not go to a Skins game this year. This have lost a fan.
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:37 am
This has very little to do with hip-hop and a lot more to do with people thinking and being humane. Blaming hip-hop culture is an out (an easy one at that) that minimizes and ignores the real issues - Dog fighting is horrible and people need to take responsbility for their actions. Blaming hip-hop just gives anyone the excuse of “well its cool in this subculture” and turns the spotlight away from dog fighting and some Cr**heads. Hip-Hop culture is what it is, but it didn’t make Vick do what he allegedly did or make CP support dog fighting.
You don’t do things that are reprehesible and that require abuse of animals regardless of what occurs in hip-hop culture, just like you don’t run around killing people or doing drugs just because of a rock song.
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:06 am
I don’t consider [******]-baiting too bad of a crime either. I guess that makes it okay too. Right?
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:44 am
I actually agree with Portis. I don’t see why people keep making idiotic comparisons. The difference between [*****]-baiting(I don’t even know what that means), rape, and all that other stuff is simple. Those are humans, not animals. I like to think people hold people higher than animals.
I don’t think having animals fight each other is serious either. Animals are property and what I choose to do with my property should be my buisness. I don’t even know why it’s a felony. No human is harmed.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Are you kidding me. First you use my name to post, real mature, then you say that fighting animals isn’t serious? Yes, you “own” animals, but as the trade off you are expected, ney, obligated to care for them and watch out for them. Dog fighting is a brutal, vicious sport that abuses the animals involved. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
And its not a coincidence that serial killers and abusers usually abuse their pets. They say the best way to see how a man will treat his wife is to see how he treats his pet/dog.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
from Kevin Hench at FoxSports …
If somebody is too stupid to understand the fundamental immorality of dog fighting, you’re never going to be able to explain it to him.
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Did someone really just mention that no humans are harmed by dog fighting? How about the people who are mauled, and sometimes killed by escaped dogs? Most of these attacks are by Pit Bulls, the favorite of dog fights because of their power and grip. So when these dogs escape they kill anything and everything, so how is it that no people are hurt? The breed has also been banned in many places, causing families to lose their pets, and again no people are being hurt?
As far as animals being regarded as property, dogs and cats are not. These animals have rights in the eyes of the law, that is why you can easily be arrested for neglect of a dog or cat. I believe you are thinking of livestock, such as a cow. Farm animals are, for the most part, regarded as property. So I hope you have tons of fun trying to fight your cows and pigs. Good luck, but I won’t be pulling for you when you are arrested for severe abuse and neglect, because any living thing has some sort of rights.
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Clinton Portis is ignorant. My first reaction to hearing his ignorant statement was they should put him in the middle of the dog fight. But I agree with Bryan R. He will never be able to understant the immorality of dog fighting, so why bother. Let him spew his ignorant statements and just ignore him (and anyone who agrees with him)!!!!!!!!
May 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 pm
How disheartening to see Chris Samuels giggle while that blankity, blank jerk is telling our kids that animal cruelty is “okay” if it’s done behind closed doors. Hey people this isn’t something to giggle over….animal abuse is a red flag that alerts authorities and mental health officials to look for other aggressive, antisocial or criminal behavior. Studies have shown that 80% of families being treated for “child abuse” were also involved in animal abuse, 70% of all animal abusers have committed at least one other criminal offense and 40% had committed “violent” crimes against people and as much as 71% of abused women reported that their partners had injured or killed one or more pets. Oh, lets not forget they’re also 5 times more apt to abuse a elderly family member.
I bet if these two heard that some big fat sweaty 47 year old slob raped a little four year old girl, beat his wife’s face to a bloody pulp and threw his grandmother down the stairs these two would laugh so hard they’d wet their extra small jock straps. What great role models these men…(wait my turn to giggle….I’m sorry I called them men and now you’re laughing too)…are for our kids.
Ummm one more thing people…not all professional athletes write big checks out of the goodness of their hearts. P.R. reps, accountants and the leagues suits instruct them to “care” because it’s good for the bottom line $$$$. If you don’t believe that I have this really nice bridge for sale in Brooklyn that I’ll let you have for a steal!
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Portis- Shut Up and rehab!
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
I don’t get Portis’s jack ass uneducated comments on fog fights has he ver heard of jefferey domer. Just because Vick donnated money probably profits from the dog fights, doesn’t mean nothing, what other crimes has he gotten away with.
Portis needs top put a muzzle on his trashy trap, & spend some of his millions on an education, how did he make it in foot ball w/ no education, i just don’t get how stupid he is give us all a BREAK!
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:59 pm
I don’t get Portis’s jack ass uneducated comments on fog fights has he ver heard of jefferey domer. Just because Vick donnated money probably profits from the dog fights doesn’t mean nothing!!
Portis needs top put a muzzle on his trashy trap, & spend some of his millions on an education, how did he make it in foot ball w/ no education, i just don’t get how stupid he is give us all a BREAK!
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Dogfighting is an incredibly disgusting act. It is not only inhumane, but a cowardly act by people who have no morality whatsoever. The dogs which lead this lonely cruel pitiful life have nothing to look forward to but bleeding, hurting, and agonizing pain each day. I am an avid Redskins fan, but put me in a room with Portis and I would break his legs myself. To the death. I only hope that this situation and media lead to an educational effort regarding the horrors of dogfighting.
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Guys, this conversation is taking a turn, and not a good one. Lets watch the name calling here.
Also, my impression is that Chris Samuels was laughing AT Clinton Portis and his statement, and was not laughing at dog fighting.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:47 pm
I always knew Portis was a moron, but i had no idea how stupid he really was. Dude needs to shutup and play football.
May 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 am
you guys are all fags..half of the people in those post illegally gamble and bet on dogfights..you kinds sound like my grandmother..shut the hell up and let the dog fights begin!!…i swear any male in this blog that has feelings for fighting pitbulls is a frickin pussy.
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:31 am
derrick you must be a teenager or younger, thats all a reply your comments deserve…go back to myspace now and have fun there.
bryan (the real bryan that is).
i agree that anyone who pits two animals against each other for pleasure is doing an evil act…i agree…but portis only minimized that act, that in and of itself is not evil. if he engages in it, then its evil.
vick if he is guilty of it…and i say IF he is guilty of it, should go to jail for a bit to think about things, maybe six months…it might not get him to change his mind, but maybe his actions will change which ultimately will be good enough for society. portis should just be publically embarresed, which is a shame for Redskins fans, i think they are good division rival fans…i bleed green as an Eagle fan and feel bad for them. hell, we had TO to contend with for a year.
I’m just saying that Portis is not on the same level as Vick IF vick was involved in dog fighting…i think he was but lets let the investigation determine that.
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:05 am
Commander - I’m an Eagles fan as well, so I understand where you are coming from on the TO thing. And you are right, if he didn’t fight dogs then Portis, as dumb as his comments were, isn’t as bad as Vick.
May 23rd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
clinton portis has done nothing but benefit the DC area, so I think it his rediculous how people are blowing this out of proportion, yes, his comments were not very smart to say to the press, and i’m sure he does not advocate dog fighting in any way, he is probably just trying, as an early post said, trying to help out micael vick
May 23rd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Ha! Matt says “everybody is a critic” while postingthe longest blog on this topic, mostly criticizing the rest of the bloggers, finally making a brief statement of his read on the actual topic. Blah Blah Blah Blah
May 24th, 2007 at 1:05 am
Leave CP alone all you righteous do gooders. One can tell the insecure, low self esteem among you. You talk tough with every opportunity about others, but you can’t carry the other guy’s jock strap.
May 24th, 2007 at 8:44 am
Hey Billy, why would we want to carry some guy’s jockstrap? That sounds like something you would enjoy doing. You sound like you would like to sniff them too. Get a clue you jock-sniffer.
May 24th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
What a scumbag piece of [****], Where do these pieces of garbage get off,
May 28th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Hey Snadbagger, Your true level of intellegence was revealed through that 2nd grade reply. The Jockstrap comment is used to say to haters like you that it is easy to stand behind the security of anonymity and degrade those you are jealous of because you can’t be like them. While it’s distrubing that anyboby would condone dog fights, it is just as uncivilized to trash a human being with such hate rhetoric. The Question then is: who is worst? those who condone dog fighting, or those who engage in, and condone trashing other humans? Sniff That Hater!!!
May 29th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
It takes a dumb piece of [****] to enjoy dog fighting.
Michael Vick makes a good case to re-instate hanging. He is a no good waste of breath and space. I truly wish that several pit bulls could eat is whole fucking face OFF. And eat his internal “guts”. I’m not a religious man but I think he will pay one day. May’be after he keeps getting sued for giving girls “herpes”.
June 1st, 2007 at 10:04 pm
M Vick is an over-rated QB who can’t throw a decent
pass to save his herpes invested [***]. Portis reminds
me of that character on fat Albert “mush mouth” both
of them are losers no matter how much money they
make. They will both end up losing all that money because they have the same thing in common,
stupidity!
June 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm
I agree with everyone who thinks this is disgusting. Real men do not prey on helpless animals in order to get their rocks off. I think it is totally disgusting that a man who is suppose to be a role model for kids and other aspiring athletes would act in such an irresponsible, ignorant fashion. And as far as “Mush mouth” he is just as ignorant as herpes boy!
July 5th, 2007 at 2:55 am
I think americans and most people in the world dont know a thing about a dog fight, i fight dogs profesionally all over the world, im from mexico, i live in mexico, work in mexico, and plan to die in mexico, i know my way around a pit and have 50 dogs, ive never abused any of my animals, they eat better than most people i know, they are seen as pets and are loved and cared for by all my family, i have never left a dog to die, my dogs are loyal, gentle animals that would never bite a human…. im not a convicted felon, i dont do drugs, i dont sell drugs, i dont drink, i study law, im a respectable citizen in my comunity. Americans think they can rid themselves of these kind of sports, but dont realize its a impossible task to take on, everybody is entitled to do what they please with their own lives and this like most crime is a sin the world will have to deal with, football players are people, people that help out in the comunity, people who make a honest living just like the next guy, we should not judge what they or anybody but ourselves do for its worse than doing it yourselves, lets mind our own business and give thanks that america is the biggest dog ring in the world
July 5th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
This is the United States of America. Animal fighting is against the law here.
You may treat your dogs humanely, and if the Americans who fight their dogs did so in the same way, PERHAPS this would be less of an issue. They don’t. Fighting animals are bred to emphasize visciousness. Animals are crippled. “Bait dogs” are used for practice, often while muzzled so they are unable to defend themselves from the fighting dog. This is not sport.
It is now against U.S. federal law to move animals across State lines for fighting. I imagine that applies to crossing country borders. Keep your dogs in Mexico. We do not want them here.
July 20th, 2007 at 10:10 am
Get Vick and Portis and lock them in a 20′ X 20′ cage. Give them each a butcher knife and tell them that the last one left alive gets to leave. I know I’d buy a ticket…and I would also have a gun and finish off the last one standing…just to put them out of their misery. What a pair of gutless scumbags. Portis is a fat ass & Vick is a dopehead.
July 22nd, 2007 at 8:47 pm
I think they are the lowest forms of life and I could watch them be tortured beyond human imagination. I spit on their mothers graves. Mississippi is ashamed of Clinton Portis. It takes a spineless coward to do the things those little fairy punks did. What goes around, will come around!
July 22nd, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Come on, animals are not people! Animals are incapable of rational thought, speech, and self-control, which all are traits of humans. Bottom Line: Animals are no more than property, and the owner of an animal is justified in doing whatever he wants with the animals as long as he doesn’t harm others.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:12 pm
These guys are just a bunch of idiots. First of all, what in the heck are they thinking, they make millions off of the fans, why do they need to be involved in dog fighting anyway. It is immoral and just flat wrong, not to mention a felony. I will never buy another pair of NIKE shoes or any other product that one of these idiots endorses.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:34 am
Clinton has brought disgrace to the Washington Redskins. If he remains a member of the team they have no chance of a winning season. Joe Gibbs has only one option to save is own reputation and that of the team, which is to dismiss this moron Clinton. The karmic payback of having an individual like Clinton will be impossible to overcome. I feel sorry for his team mates who will suffer. The only way to reverse this inevitable situation would be for Clinton to privately publicly ask for forgiveness from God and publicly ask for forgiveness from PETA , Mr. Snyder (his employer) Mr. Gibbs, his teammates and the fans.
If he dos not do this please remember this post while wondering why the Skin’s get all the bad bounces.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:44 am
I don’t care what Portis says now, I heard the interview and believe he was saying what he really felt. He has gone from one of my favorite Redskins to one I want to see gone. People like Portis, or like all the posters in here that say these are just dogs they don’t deserve to be treated humanely, they are what’s wrong with this world. Perhaps being so self center that you can’t even afford any basic sympathy for another living creature is something uniquely human. Not really a positive of ours if you ask me.
I truely hope they throw the book at Vick. As for Portis he could have said a lot of things and I would have forgiven him had he asked for it. But A) he hasn’t asked for forgiveness, and B) There is no forgiving on this issue. Abusing something that loves you and depends on you is lower than dirt.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Sam, I know a lot of people that are incapable of those same things, does that give me the right to kill them? It’s illegal and it’s wrong! Morally, ethically, however you want to look at it. Wrong! Portis condoning is almost as bad.
July 25th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
I certainly did not mean to say that we should kill people who are lacking in those functions. In fact, I have Asperger’s syndrome, a mild form of autism. I mean to say that those functions are part of a clear and distinct difference between humans and animals. In and of itself, human life is valuable regardless. Without discussing them, even the most retarded of persons has human capabilities, although maybe not in the same quantity, but they are capable. Animals are not at all capable.
So therefore, humans are inherently valuable, animals are property, and animals therefore can be rightfully used for whatever their owner wants-except to harm others.
It’s amazing how many of you have great compassion for animals (has this thread been invaded by PETA?). I imagine some of you posters cry for the dead skunks on the highway.
And just because of the vitirol spewed towards Portis, I HOPE CLINTON PORTIS RUNS FOR 1,500 YARDS THIS YEAR!!!!! AND MICHAEL VICK HAS A 100 PASSER RATING!!!!!! It could be a real dogfight for the MVP.
July 26th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
M.Vick donates $10,000 to VTech tragedy victims!
M.Vick donates $23,000 to one man who’s dog’s beat his??
What’s wrong with this picture?
July 26th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Sam, your just trying to get a rise out of everyone aren’t you? have you ever had a dog in your family?
July 26th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Why does everyone care so much now? Another athlete with too much talent and not enough sense did something illegal. Why is ANYONE shocked? Let’s get one thing straight… being rich will save you from a lot of mistakes, but it will be hard to let this one go for his puppy loving fans… I know one thing, athletes, rappers, and the average joe will pay to do some pretty ridiculous stuff, it’s been the American Way. Capitalize off of pain or enjoyment. In this case Michael Vick found a way to do both. I say we deport anyone found guilty, including Mike and his buddies if indeed they are conVickted, of dog training or fighting be deported to a country that allows it… Get out, and take the tired, mangy, broken down dogs and get out. If conVickted, I think they all should get a lessened sentenced for murdering the dogs. I know it “sounds” inhumane, but it happens every week at your counties HUMANE SOCIETY! Seriously, it’s these dogs that have been trained to fight since birth, that attacks grandmothers, and kids at the playground… These dogs are murders too. I don’t want them on the streets or in the paper… GET ‘EM OUT!
July 27th, 2007 at 12:19 am
I guess it would be a good thing if the nfl ( nationial f*@k up league) got players who didn’t graduate from college with a sports medicine degree ( if they even graduated) to play football, but what do you expect? Football, which I enjoy much is kinda like dog fighting so how can you expect them to think any different ( like animals).
I hate any animal cruelty, I have a pit and so do many others in my family. I wish the same pain as any dog fighting dog owner the same pain they do on to their poor helpless animals. Say bye bye Vick…
July 29th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Yes Aaron, I have had dogs. Everyone of them were dumb. I come from rural Manitoba (yes, there exists a world outside cities), where we do not license dogs or groom them or even let them in the house or treat them as family members. And when they begin to cause trouble, we shoot them. Out here, we treat animals as property. I don’t inherently hate dogs, but I also believe that animals exist to serve humans.
July 31st, 2007 at 7:21 pm
I was a huge fan of Portis…until I read this. No retraction by Portis is good enough. We saw his true colors in that first interview. Sorry Portis, there’s one member of your fan club who’s gone for good.
Sam Bourne — Dogs are only as dumb as their owners. We’re not talking about shooting a dog here — we’re talking about the felonious crime of dog fighting. Dog fighting is a long, cruel way to kill a dog. And then, if the dog doesn’t actually die, it’s painfully killed anyway. There’s no defending that. At all. Ever.
August 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 am
for these guys to be the best of the best and role modles for a bunch of upcoming players, they sure dont act like it. especially vick, who signed for 25 million, should go to jail and loose his spot on the team to prove that the team is not all him.
August 4th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
I hope Mike Vicks momma gets trapped in his rape stand and a gorilla rapes her
August 12th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
i dont think there is nothing wrong with dog fighting its just like people going out hunting killing deer are other wildlife animals.
August 12th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
If everyone was judged by what they do in the privacy of their own home what would it say about society. People get so caught up in the life of an animal they are NOT HUMANS. They are wild animals with the instinct to kill to survive so is it wrong for humans to watch you can’t make a fight happen it is by nature of the beast.
August 12th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
If you saw a croud of people and they were watching lions fight do you think anyone would try to stop it. Why is it ok for humans to whip animals and use them for entertainment (circus acts) but then the same people frown upon dogs fighting dog fights are the same as boxing. We pay to see humans fight and that isn’t a crime so why is it one to watch a dog. Dog fights are only illegal because the government can’t profit off of it, it has nothing to do with the dog.
August 15th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Portis & Vick are nothin’ but thugs with millions of dollars (part of what is wrong with modern sports).
Oh, but we can’t “judge” them, right? After all, it’s probably just their “culture”, huh? Well F*** their so-called “culture” and F*** them and anyone who tries to defend them (only to illustrate their own lack of intelligence).
Vick, Portis, DMX, 50 cent, Snoop Dogg, Kanye and all the rest of ‘em can go back to africa if they want to act like savages. Maybe a Lion will rip their faces off and they’ll both get a taste of what kind of hell they put those animals through. Then they can die and go to hell where they belong.
As for me, I love my dogs and hate people that drag our race into the s*** every day. Use your brain and have some god**** integrity!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Portis is one igorant bastard. So it is okay to rape, murder or even malest children behind close door?? “We all should mind our own business”. What a scumbag, to say that. This is why the world is so messed up because of assholes like him and Vick. What role models are they to children nowadays. It is okay to commit violence and harm others whether it is an animal or a person. I feel sorry for their kids.
August 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
all of those states alabama mississippi texas arkansas n and s carolina virginia georgia florida are full of ignorant uneducated pieces of shit
September 4th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
I think it is DUMB IDIOTS like CP and MV that give Black people a bad name. I remember a great man that said ” I have a dream ” Not ” I had a Nightmare that I was killed trying to help black people buy the latest Jordans, Grab the Newest 20’s, and be as dumb as they can possibly be”. My hat goes off to the real pro’s such as Tiger Woods, Shaq, Jerome Bettis, and Derrick Fisher. Keep up the good work one day maybe even other less moral pro’s can follow in your steps. God Bless All
Everyone do the world a favor and neuter Michael Vick and CP
September 4th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Hey I have an idea the next time I get stopped by a cop I will just finish every sentence with the words you know. Maybe the cop will say hey this dumb ass must have the last name Portis. Then I can also add well officer I didn’t know smoking weed in my car was wrong after all I am in my car behind these locked doors. What an IDIOT. By the way i wonder what his IQ is. I hope he doesn’t have kids. Maybe he will take the unfortunate kids on field trips paid for, you know to see the real back roads of Missippi.
September 27th, 2007 at 3:36 am
Derrick A, everyone feelin for pit dogs is a pussy? Man, you sound like a straight up bit*h. You just too punk to step up in a ring and scrap with another man, have to leave the fighting to your dog right? You make someone else fight for you, and everyone else is a pussy? Think about that for real.
September 27th, 2007 at 3:42 am
eh Erica, you just threw out your own point. You talking about paying to see “humans fight”. Difference being, humans have the choice. When’s the last time you threw your kid into a cage match with other kids? Then told them if they didn’t win, they wouldn’t eat? Then if they lost too many fights, you drowned their ass? Maybe your kid loves to throw hands, does that give him the killer instinct? So it’s okay then, right?
October 17th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Man its people like you that give good reason to my ” people should have a high IQ score in order to have kids.” You are the reason blacks get stereo typed. I am sure MLK died trying to fight for you dumb, ignorant, African Americans to have the right for fighting pit bulls. I have many friends who are black and none of them agree with this. I guess there are two types of people black people. Those that are good, educated, and willing to be responsible. Then there are those that are for lack of a better word a flea to society. This goes for all races mine included. I wish all dog fighters would fight dogs with their own fist. You vs. the dog. Or is it because you’re yellow, no wait you may black, brown, or even white. The only thing you can say did in life is give the world a reason to invent condoms. Too bad many minorities are looked down on in the same manner as you. This is in regards to all peeps that feel the same as TPL. What is that for THE PUREST LOSER
October 17th, 2007 at 10:15 am
One more thing. Everyone that feels pit bull fighting is right or like they say “it’s what dey bred fo”. Funny how when slavery was around and blacks were being bred for work didn’t seem right. I think it’s ironic how when the tables are turned it doesn’t look so good anymore. After all in America there were no blacks and they were imported over here and used for working.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
I haven’t heeard one argument that convinces me that having animals fight to the death is good or should be done.
December 21st, 2007 at 9:12 pm
I think anybody who agrees with the fighting of these innocent animals are ignorant,heartless and STUPID!
February 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pm
determine sociopaths from amongst human beings by flashing pictures onto the overhead screens of the damaged dogs immediately after these dog fights to the spectators at the stadiums .just because some believe that human rights
have higher priority than animal rights shouldn’t mean than
animals have NO rights !
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