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Hamburg Final Live

Live calling the Federer-Nadal rematch. This is the one clay court where Federer has been able to beat Nadal, in last year’s final. But Nadal should be fresher this year, and highly motivated to win the one clay-court Masters Series tournament that has so far eluded him.

Good morning, all. Anybody have predictions? I don’t know what kind of shape Nadal is in, but if he’s at, say, 70% or higher he wins. Lower and Federer should be able to take it. He’s barely broken a sweat all week.

So far there’s nothing to report another than this week’s highlights accompanied by generic trance music. They just showed that backwards-running lob Rafa hit late in the third set yesterday, though…And the announcers have reminded me that both Nadal and Djokovic were both very frank about feeling honored to have taken part in such a great match. Djokovic also said it was probably the best he’s ever played on clay (I agree), and also that Nadal is the best defensive player in the history of the sport (probably true?). Nice for the two to honor the match, although Djokovic couldn’t resist sour grapes entirely, referring to the part that “luck” played in the match. Maybe he’s taking a lead from Serena Williams’ press conferences?…

Fed and Nadal are both on court now. Rafa’s knees are like jack-rabbits, as usual. Federer is customarily cool. Rafa wins the toss and will receive. They both looked pretty relaxed up at net…Here we go…

Fed serving at 0-0: Rafa moving Fed wide to his forehand, 15-15. A Rafa error off a net-cord, and Fed forehand winner for 40-15. Nadal angles off a backhand winner out of nowhere, 40-30. Fed dispatches a shortball with ease. The serve, forehand combination he’ll want to make good on all night.

Rafa serving at 0-1: Nadal backhand a little short. Federer punishes it, 0-15. Rafa gives up a cheap forehand error for 0-30. A very good wide serve from Rafa but an even better return deep in the opposite corner, and Fed completely out-maneuvers Rafa with a backhand down the line. Three break points. Nadal saves one with a solid rally, Fed eventually over-hitting. Two more. And Rafa double-faults to hand over the break. Great start for Federer, but we all know–and he knows–it won’t be this easy for long.

Federer at 2-0: Down-the-line forehand winner, 15-0. Long rally, and a Fed backhand error, 15-15. Federer into the net, passed by the backhand, 15-30. Federer in again on a better approach, Nadal floating it long, 30-30. And an ace for game point. Federer’s looking really sharp. Which is my way of jinxing him. Net’s a forehand off a high ball. Deuce. Cheap backhand error from Nadal, though. Federer’s Ad. Federer approaches up the dead middle of the court, which seems to freeze Nadal for a moment–less angle to work with on the pass–not a bad idea.

Rafa at 0-3: Same score as yesterday. Let’s see if Rafa gives us a similar response…Nervy backhand for 0-15. Rafa keeps good length on the forehand, 15-15. Second serve says “Punish me”. Federer obliges. 15-30. Defense-to-offense, except Rafa still looks fairly timid on the kill shot. Good enough to force the error, though. 30-30. Moves Federer out wide to the right again, 40-30. They’re both using that same tactic: Federer to go for winners, and Rafa trying to force errors. It’s working for both. Rafa holds.

Fed at 3-1: Nadal getting his high-bouncing clay game together, but he hits one too short and Federer finds a gorgeous angle on the backhand, 15-0. Rafa answers with a more prosaic, but equally effective backhand pass, 15-15. Federer’s backhand looks very strong. Puts one just wide down the line, though. Slight question about the call, but it was an ambitious shot, struck without much time, and he missed it. 15-30. Another unforced error from Nadal for 30-30. And a missed return gives Federer game point. Trying to step in, Federer mis-times the forehand. Deuce. Beautiful clay forehand from Rafa, catches Fed running around the backhand. Break point. But Federer erases it with a smart approach, and irretrievable volley. And a pair of aces for the hold.

Nadal serving at 1-4: Fed comes in and knocks off the volley, 0-15. Nadal not hitting with enough conviction, allows Federer to come in again, 0-30. He’s basically allowing Federer to do what he wants. To good there, though, period. Perfect, unreturnable forehand from Federer. 0-40. And Rafa frames one to give up the game. His presence is barely felt out there right now.

Federer at 5-1: Continuing to step in, a mis-timed forehand. But then a service winner or 15-15. Nadal has him on his back foot off the return, and presses the advantage by coming in and finishing the point with a swinging volley winner. But Federer answers with another ball placed exactly where he wants deep to Rafa’s backhand corner, drawing the error. Rafa still hitting too tepidly. Set point. Federer maybe a little over-eager. Tries to end the set on a swinging, but misses wide. Rafa’s turn to dictate. Classic Rafa forehand. Break point. Fed comes in but can’t control the volley. One break back.

Nadal serving at 2-5: Rafa is being treated for some kind of tightening around where the hamstring meats the glut. The trainer tells him taping won’t do anything; all he can do is try to stretch it out. Nadal is clearly worrying about Roland Garros. He doesn’t want to jeopardize his condition there…Rafa goes back out…Butchers a forehand for 0-15. Federer goes for too much on the return, 15-15. Great defense from Nadal off the backhand, and a nice forehand winner to hopefully stoke his confidence. 30-15. Fed’s return comes in too fast, too heavy, too deep. Rafa can’t control it, 30-30. Rafa unforced error. Set point. Erased by an inside-out forehand winner. Deuce. A couple more deep, pacey forehands give him game point. Perfect serve out wide followed by an unreachable forehand down the line. Rafa is ponying up big-time. But Fed still gets to serve for it.

Fed at 5-3: Rafa all over the court now, runs down a Federer forehand and hits the winner. 0-15. Fed nets a backhand after a tricky rally, 0-30. Slight mis-hit off the return gives Rafa a decent angle, but Fed puts it away. Another good, serve and he steps in for another winner. 30-30. Nadal gives him a short ball, and Fed makes a mess of it. Break point to go back on serve. Federer looking timid now. He lets Nadal have his way with him, setting up an inside-out forehand winner that you could see coming about four shots in advance. Federer must have seen it coming too. He seems to be re-experiencing all the clay-court trauma he’s experienced at Rafa’s hands in the past. Rafa still needs to hold to stay in the set…

Rafa serving at 4-5: Rafa in charge now, but amazing low slice from Federer to recover. 0-15. A very good drop shot from Fed, good, dipping response cross court. Rafa gets there and Fed can’t quite keep it in the court. 15-15. Rafa running forehand pass. 30-15. He’ll hit that all day. Fed knows it. Nice, sneak-serve up the T, to Federer’s forehand. 40-15. Nadal in a winning position for th inside-out forehand but he dumps it into the net. 40-30. A very clay point, unsurprisingly won by Rafa. All even.

Fed at 5-5: Good serve. 15-0. Federer at net, pushes up on the volley, Nadal punishes the forehand pass. 15-15. Another good serve for 30-15. Rafa down-the-line forehand winner. Federer about thirty feet away. 30-30. Rafa out of position, knows he has to absolutely drill the cross-court backhand in order not to get burned on Federer’s response, and he’s up to it. Gets the error a few shots later for break point. And Federer gives up the break on his cheapest error of the match–off the forehand, no less. Rafa breaks for the third time in a row. Unbelievable, but, then again, not.

Nadal serving for it at 6-5: Federer can’t find the court. 15-0. Good serve, but goes for too much angle on the backhand follow-up. 15-15. Return error. 30-15. Another Fed error gives Rafa two set points. Another missed return gives Rafa the set!

Federer has to be hating himself right now. Rafa looked like an animal unchanged after that massage. Was the muscle tightness that severe, and the massage that beneficial? Rafa had already gotten the first break back before the time-out, but the following five games were basically a rout. What do you guys think? Can Fed recover from this? Will Rafa’s cramp possibly return?

Federer serving at 5-7, 0-0: Early 0-30 hole. But he gets to hit a winning overhead. 15-30. Rafa was all wound up to club a forehand when my stream went out. At least it didn’t happen late in the last set…Can’t say I’m too surprised Rafa got the break.

Nadal at 7-5, 1-0: Nice offensive approach from Federer; he doesn’t even have to hit the volley. 0-15. Federer tries to step in again but finds the net–those shots were landing right where he wanted them to a half hour ago. 15-15. Nadal just misses the pass, giving Federer 15-30. Federer into net again, smart placement on the volley giving him two break points. A weighty Federer forehand puts just enough pressure on Nadal’s backhand. The break.

Fed at 5-7, 1-1: A Rafa winner for 0-15. Nadal really surprised him there going inside-out. 0-30. Solid approach from Federer and perfect positioning. Nothing Rafa could do. 15-30. Very surpising drop shot there from Rafa, with perfect placement, and Federer can’t quite keep it down. 15-40. Aces away the first break point. One more. And as a good as another ace, easy put away off the first ball for deuce. Another great serve, and Rafa can’t put the return in play. Game to Federer. His serve got him out of trouble there, and momentum has officially settled. Rafa knows he’s going to have to work for this now, and Federer knows there’s hope. Remember we still don’t know how much Rafa has left physically. He doesn’t want this to go three.

Nadal at 7-5, 1-2: AMS announcer proudly analyzing the reactions of a spaced-out eight year-old…Federer asserting himself again. Backhand winner for 0-15. Federer runs around his backhand practically to outside the doubles alley and gets away with it. 0-30. A little too cocky trying to control a slice from too deep and too wide. 15-30. Federer hits high-bouncing deep ball, and Rafa smothers it. Two break points. A vicious twenty-stroke rally, and Fed takes the game.

Federer at 5-7, 3-1: Edberg on that point. Spins the second serve out wide. Plenty of time to get to net, and plenty of court in which to delicately place the volley. 15-0. Rafa error for 30-0. Hail mary forehand for a net-cord that gives Federer the point. And he takes the game.

Rafa at 7-5, 1-4: What a crazy match…Good time for an ace. 15-0. Federer’s turn for defense-to-offense. Breath-taking, I have to admit. 15-15. Service winner. Good sign that Nadal still has confidence. He’s getting out-worked on the long points, but getting it done on serve. Nets a forehand for 40-30. Nadal gets to boss a point. He holds.

Federer at 5-7, 4-2: One break means so little against Rafa on clay…Federer approaches against a low-slung missile off Nadal’s backhand. No control. 0-15. Inside-out forehand drive for 15-15. Rock solid offense from Federer. The fore-court is his friend right. 30-15. Fed loses control of the forehand, 30-30. Sick forehand angle, and the whole court to hit the volley into. Nalbandianesque there. Into the net again, but misses a routine volley. Deuce. Rafa pushes the return long. Game point again for Federer. Shank off the return.

Rafa serving at 7-5, 2-5: Rafa forces the error. 15-0. Rafa moving the ball around well until he inexplicably nets a backhand. 15-15. Frame a forehand. Federer can smell it. Fed goes for the line behind Rafa, but misses. 30-30. Second-serve ace just catching the line. Whoa. And a return error lets Nadal hang on in the set.

Federer serving for it at 5-7, 5-3: Federer forehand just long. 0-15. Ace out wide. Dipping forehand pass on the run from way back. The less often seen down the line variety. 15-30. Federer pulls the trigger immediately and misses. Two break points. More kick on that second serve than Rafa expected, and he can’t do enough with the return. Fed saves the other break point at the net. Deuce. Fed camps out on his own forehand on the return. Makes good. Break point. Impossible cross-court backhand pass from Rafa. He’s done it.

Rafa at 7-5, 4-5: So far this match is actually eclipsing yesterday’s semi in terms of drama. The quality’s been a bit streakier, though, almost as if they know each other so well that they’re both being affected in advance by what they know each other are capable of bringing…Rafa panics a little, having to hit a second pass. 0-15. Return error, 15-15. Rafa maybe slightly mis-hit that one, and it landed on the line. 30-15. All Rafa, dictating behind the serve. 40-15. Federer just hanging in that rally with a couple loopers on the baseline, then steps in and over-cooks the forehand. Game to Nadal.

Fed at 5-7, 5-5: Good defensive lob from Rafa resets the point. And he’s up to the pass. 0-15. Nadal on the offensive, Federer defending well, and then a Rafa drop shot leads to a net exchange that Rafa just manages to win. 0-30. Federer forehand error, for 0-40. Fault call, corrected. Ace for Federer. Another huge serve that Rafa can’t tame. Two erased. One to go. Another monster serve from Federer. We’re at deuce. And Rafa pushes a forehand long. Game point, Federer. Perfect, Sampras-esque volley winner. I’ll say it again: unbelievable.

Rafa at 7-5, 5-6: Double-fault from Nadal. 0-15. Makes up for it with a service winner. 15-15. Federer mis-hit lands just barely misses the baseline. 30-15. Picking on Federer’s backhand, then virtually hands him a forehand winner, but Federer doesn’t want it. 40-15. You’ve-got-to-be-kidding-me defense from Federer, but Nadal stays the course. He holds. We’re in a tiebreak.

Tiebreak: Fed serves first, and Nadal scoops up a low Federer slice, planting the inside-out winner right on the baseline. Mini-break. Another inch-perfect Rafa forehand to the same corner. 2-0, Rafa. Fed hits a not-so-good drop shot, and Rafa thinks too much on it, pulls it wide. Back on serve. And a whipping forehand from Federer. We’re even again at, 2-2. Fed’s forehand again.

Nadal now at 2-3 in the breaker: Great serve out side, but Federer angles his return and keeps it low. Rafa can’t keep it down. 2-4. Another great serve, another better, low-slice return.

Federer now at 5-2 in the breaker: Federer fans starting whooping a bit early there. Nadal passing shot winner. 5-3. Another questionable Federer drop shot, but Nadal blows it again. Or maybe that was a wily play, testing Rafa’s nerves at the right time.

Rafa at 3-6: A heavy return gets it done. Set to Federer! I hope Nadal isn’t worn out in the next set, because this match is all-on right now. Doesn’t get more dramatic.

My stream died again…and I just saw an incredible point with another great defensive lob from Rafa. But Federer stayed in it.

Fed at 5-7, 7-6, 0-1: 40-30. He holds.

Rafa at 7-5, 6-7, 1-1: Good drop shot from Rafa. Fed with a very good lob response but Rafa, slams the backhand overhead behind Fed’s ankles. No play on that. 15-0. Federer out-maneuvers Rafa from the baseline. If you’re going to give up the whole court, you need to make sure there’s no response. 15-15. Federer out of position, Rafa forces the error. 30-15. Double-fault from Rafa. 30-30. Big point? Good defense from Fed, but gradually worn down. Game point. Too good from Rafa. Two forehands struck with pace, spin (duh), and nearly on the line behind Federer. Game to Rafa, and one feels that both are near their best right now, rather than the trading off that’s been the rule throughout most of the match. Not that I’m complaining…

Fed at 5-7, 7-6, 1-2: Sensible approach from Federer. 15-0. Another, but Rafa up to the pass. 15-15. Serve, forehand combination from Fed. 30-15. Fed errs for 30-30. I thought Rafa gave up too much court there, but Federer let him off the hook a little and he surprised him with the angle and pace of his cross-court forehand. Break point. The classic problem for Federer there: trying to hit down on a heavy ball with a one-handed backhand. The break for Rafa.

Nadal at 7-5,6-7, 3-1: Rafa quickly to 30-15. Rafa draws the looping mid-court ball and drills it away for the winner. Game points. Game to Rafa.

Fed at 5-7, 7-6, 4-1: It’s going to take something special from Federer now. And how much more could he possibly have, mentally? This feels like the fifth set. A Rafa winner and dejected body language from Fed. A Federer error, and more dejected body language. 0-30. Rafa’s return called long, but Federer’s not sure about the call. He looks too gracious right now, but the umpire calls the ball out. 15-30. Federer makes Nadal hit two overheads but the result is the same. Break points for Nadal. Good serve and an easy put away for Federer. If he still wants it, the time is now. He still wants it–and Rafa guilty of under-estimating him there. Gave him the forehand opening and he took it. But at deuce he steps in and misses. Break point again for Rafa. Awesome point from Federer, controlling the fore-court again. Deuce. Rafa in absolute winning position, instead of slamming it, he hits an awful, jumping drop volley to hand Federer the Ad. Federer takes it.

Rafa at 7-5, 6-7, 4-2: He’s still got the break, but Rafa really let Fed off the hook there…Nadal misses a forehand wide. 0-15. Federer demonstrates what Rafa should have done on that flubbed drop-volley: he slams the hell out of the ball. 0-30. Rafa re-asserts himself with two monster forehands, flatter than usual. 15-30. And another huge forehand for 30-30. Fed telegraphed the approach and hit too short on the way in. Guess what happened? Game point Rafa. Nadal just long down the line. Deuce. Federer steps in and takes control. Break point. Wide serve, forehand into the open court. Deuce. Serve right on the line. Federer not sure. Over-ruled. They’ll replay the point at second serve. Federer in control–open court–but just wide on the backhand. Nadal’s Ad. Another crucial mistake from Federer, not doing enough with the approach off a short ball, and giving himself a much more difficult volley as a consequence. Rafa holds.

Federer at 5-7, 7-6, 2-5: Real chances lost for both, now, but the difference is, of course, that Rafa is already up a break…Rafa goes for an angle on the return and misses. 15-0. Rafa with a perfect top-spin lob off the backhand. 15-15. A Nadal mis-hit catches the baseline. 15-30. Powerful approach from Federer. Rafa scrambling. 30-30. A vicious backhand from Federer draws blood. Game point. And a winner gives him the game.

Nadal serving for the title, 7-5, 6-7, 5-3: Rafa half-volleys a deep return, then gets a net-cord on a hail-mary forehand, scoops it up short, but Rafa finds an even shorter angle. 15-0. Return into the top of the net. 30-0. Cross-court pass winner, for three championship points. Backhand angle winner. Rafa’s done it!

Nadal, 7-5, 6-7, 6-3.

Hugely redemptive win for Nadal after the early loss in Rome. Taken together with yesterday’s three-set win over an inspired Djokovic, this is one of the best efforts of Rafa’s career. For Federer, there’s about a million reasons why this will be a hard loss to swallow. He’ll put a positive spin on it, talk about all his chances and what not. And he does have a point, but will any of it matter in a best-of-five set match? Federer better hope Nadal draws Djokovic in Paris. But even if he does, he’ll have a day to recover there. And the surface there is more to Rafa’s liking. Roland Garros looks a sure-thing for Nadal.

Opinions?

Live blogging will be back for key Roland Garros matches. Most certainly the final.

38 Responses to “Hamburg Final Live”

  1. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 5:55 am

    Good morning all!

    Thanks for the commentary. Scorewise, it looks like yesterday’s match is taking a toll on Nadal. Perhaps Roger is not making the errors Nadal hoping for.

    Keep up the good work!

  2. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:24 am

    Ignore what I said!

    What a comeback!

  3. Nate Cunningham says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:28 am

    I know, man. Insane! Can Federer get over this?

  4. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:32 am

    To be truthful, I’m a Federer fan. The fact is he doesn’t have the game to meet Nadal. It seems his winners are not enough to win the game and his points are mostly Nadal’s errors in the last few games…

    Oh well, we’ll see.

  5. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:37 am

    The number of times Federer got broken in a row has got to be a record of sorts… At least make it an entertaining 3-setter!

  6. Nate Cunningham says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:47 am

    Federer’s on his way man. He’s got the game, when he can play it.

  7. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:50 am

    This reads like the final in Monte Carlo when it was back and forth with inconsistencies from both sides.

    *sigh* I wish I have a TV!

    You’re right. I guess he’s not playing the game rather than not being able to play it.

  8. Jesse Motiff says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 6:56 am

    I forgot this was on, but at least I remembered early on in the second set! lol

  9. Jenny says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Hi everyone, thanks again Nate. Sorry you haven’t got a TV Dennis. That first set was just crazy from Roger, I couldn’t believe it, Rafa deserved the set. I can’t even make up my mind who’s going to win this. This second set is looking better from Roger, he’s woken up and playing his game. Could Rafa be suffering with that leg?

  10. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:10 am

    Not looking so good anymore Jenny!

    This is frustrating for the audience; can you imagine what the players are going through? These two are champions from the psychological perspective!

  11. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:31 am

    Is it me or this is intense? According to Nate, there’s some quality play, rather than inconsistencies, in the last few games!

  12. Nate Cunningham says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:32 am

    What do we think, who’s got the edge? I just don’t know. But I suspect Rafa may be a little tired. If he is, Federer will not show mercy this time…

  13. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:35 am

    Does the fatigue show? Nadal has always been a fighter so it’s hard to imagine him showing tiredness. Is he moving slower?

  14. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 7:54 am

    I smell trouble for Federer…

    The good thing is that this’s been a fantastic game.

  15. joel-la says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:09 am

    Another excellently contended match so far today; Roger is really fighting to break back here in the third. You all know I am hoping for Rafa to win, but it’s nice to see these two fighting it out. We really do have 3 great players at the top right now, with much variety in their games and their personalities.

    Thanks for calling the match again! Your fingers must be getting tired…

  16. Dennis says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Great job on the commentary!

    Too bad… I wonder what’s going to happen at the French Open.

  17. Michael says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:19 am

    I’m on the edge of my seat right now…thanks so, so much for blogging this, Nate! And yesterday’s match against Djokovic, too. Your coverage is fantastic.

  18. Jenny says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:20 am

    I’m a Rogi fan, but how you anyone begrudge Rafa his well deserved victory. You did your best Roger, that first set said it for me, Rafa got into his head.

  19. Jenny says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am

    Sorry, I meant how can anyone……thanks again Nate.

  20. Nate Cunningham says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:25 am

    That was as dramatic as gets for sure. What is there even to say. Rafa is Rafa, and Federer did not have quite enough in the end…The Hamburg guy now is talking about the tournament’s future, but the last two days are a pretty good advertisement for the tournament. It doesn’t have as storied a history as Monte-Carlo or Rome, but the slower, lower-bouncing surface is a bit of an equalizer against Rafa’s spin. It’s good to have a major clay tournament on this surface.

  21. Nate Cunningham says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:27 am

    No worries, Michael and Dennis. SORRY YOU COULDN’T WATCH IT!

  22. Michael says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Nate, did you mention that you were streaming this match? From where?

  23. joel-la says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Opinion: Rafa will win his 4th RG this year. At the least, he should given yesterday’s and today’s performances against #s 1 & 3.

    Looking ahead: I had thought Wimbledon would be more wide open this year; however, if Roger continues to use the net to his advantage, then maybe not. It’s tough to say. Maybe Rafa or Djoko could win there.

  24. Michael says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:33 am

    I was partially hoping for a switch-up this year, Federer to take Garros, Rafa Wimbledon. It would make things interesting! Looks unlikely, now. (Which of course would make it all the cooler if it did happen…)

  25. Jenny says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:38 am

    If Roger can’t defend Wimbledon this year, I’d quite like Nalbandian to take it, he’s a superb grass court player.

  26. joel-la says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Jenny - I agree that it would be nice for Nalby to win a major.

  27. Nate says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Michael, streaming from http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Live/Men/0,,11444,00.html?WT.mc_id=msads
    you have to pay, but it’s the most reliable stream by far.
    channelsurfing.net is free, but far more problematic for me…

    Jenny and Joel-la, I’ll cry if Nalby bags a major but I’m not holding my breath at this point…

    I agree, Jenny, Rafa appears untoucahble at Roland Garros. Who the hell is going to win three sets from him in a single match?

  28. Debra Gardner says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Ah Nate! his was great! I paid for the Atp masters series and the stream is so in and out that I can’t listen to a whole match and then, when I listen to highlights, they take out the commentary so I don’t know who is doing what. But yours was great. This is the way tennis should be in my book, two champions back and forth, so good that you just don’t know. I hope that Rafa takes care of his hamstring or whatever it is because around the corner there’s always Joko plus Nalbandian who says that “when I’m in good shape, I can beat anybody” but who doesn’t seem to be able to remain in consistently good shape hysically or mentally. what is Joko won them all this year! That would upset everyone’s apple cart! I’m happy for my Rafa and sorry for my Artful’s loss, but I have to remind myself that Roger’s only receiving what he dished out to tons of people over a three year period. It just happens. Makes things much more interesting!!!

  29. Nina Rota says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    When will I learn to never underestimate Rafa? I’m beginning to learn that about Nole too. I’m really looking forward to some hard court battles - I hope Roger is up for it too.

    Okay, help me out with his court surface stuff Nate. Roland Garros is faster which means that the ball should stay down more, not up, since the ball will skid more. That means Roger’s slice should stay down more and Rafa’s ball shouldn’t bounce as high. Right? It doesn’t appear to be right but what’s wrong with the reasoning?

  30. Nate says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 11:29 am

    Nina, a faster, less heavy clay court like Roland Garros/Rome will love Nadal’s top-spin–it will rocket off the court in a way it doesn’t in Hamburg. I’m not sure about slice. The faster court = Nadal advantage thing is kind of confusing because we’re used to the opposite being the case on a hard court, but Nadal’s game was fashioned on clay, and his spin is tailor-made for it. Perhaps the bouncier clay also takes the slice better, although I saw a lot of good drop shots this week, so that may be a wash…

  31. Nate says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    I’m sorry the stream wasn’t working well for you Debra. I guess it depends on the circumstances of your connection. Mine’s pretty good, and I haven’t had a whole lot of problems lately with the AMS streams. It maybe goes out once a match for like fifteen seconds…Glad you liked the commentary, though. It was an amazing match. “The way tennis should be”, as you said.

  32. joel-la says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Fed served much better than Djoko did yesterday (higher 1st serve percentage and number of aces) but it still wasn’t enough. He did collapse a little though, too. I think if Djoko’s serve was working better y’day he would’ve had an even better shot at winning.

    Nadal has had to rally from behind a lot, lately, which may mean he’s in a bit of a danger zone - or not. Tough to say.

  33. Nate says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    I think Nadal’s rallying from behind is the opposite of a warning sign. He’s fought through so much already, and his invincibility on clay is so physically founded, I just don’t see who can do too much more than dent him over five sets. The best attacking players in the sport have to be playing at the very top of their abilities on every point of the match in order to get the win. And no one can really do that…

  34. joel-la says:

    May 18th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    True Nate. Well I’ll be watching, and hoping, to see him fall on the clay of RG a 4th time on the last Sunday.

  35. Chris says:

    May 19th, 2008 at 12:03 am

    That was quite the match…watching the replay now…I really thought Federer had this match and really when you do not finish off someone like Nadal…you wind up kicking yourself later.

  36. Nina Rota says:

    May 19th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    Okay, I think I got the clay, grass, hard court thing. A ball will bounce higher on a harder surface because there’s more bounce on a hard surface. However, at Wimbledon, the surface is softer so there’s less bounce. Except that for the past years, they’ve been making the surface harder and so the ball is bouncing higher and Rafa has been doing better.

    On hard courts, Rafa gets beaten because players can hit the ball faster than he can play defense and, of course, there’s the pounding that’s very hard on his knees and feet.

  37. Patricia Davis says:

    May 19th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    I think it’s really a shame we have so few clay events in this country. Maybe the ATP brass should take that up, make it a requirement that half the tourneys be on clay. That way players would take it more seriously. American players, that is.

    Who decides how a court is prepared to make it either faster or slower? What’s at stake politically, so to speak. I imagine host countries would want to help out their own guys. So they might tinker with the surfaces to accommodate their needs and style of play.

    Roger would never complain though that they’re playing with the court to help Nadal to victory. Although I don’t see why the Brits would feel they have a stake in what a Swiss and a Spaniard get up to. It’s their tournament I guess and they can do whatever.

    BTW, Jenny and all others familiar with the new roof, is that starting at Wimbledon this year?

  38. Jenny says:

    May 20th, 2008 at 2:39 am

    Pat, from what I can gather the roof seems to be on track, thank goodness. I don’t think I could bear to see more rain and watching those endless TV repeats of bygone years, as great as those matches were.

    I’d like to see clay events in the UK too, we don’t even have one, I can’t believe the LTA with their resources couldn’t sort that out.

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