August 28, 2007
Should Mike Mussina Lose His Job?
That is the real question this morning.
Yes
Moose has been bad, even dreadful. If he wasn't 38 with 247 wins, 2,648 Ks and with a whole bunch of expected Hall of Fame votes coming in with his name on them, his last 3 performances are the types that get younger pitchers sent down to figure things out. In his last 3 starts, he has 19 runs in 9 2/3 innings. He's given up 25 hits, walked 5 and struck out 3.
Another telling stat is that Mussina is 0-7 following Yankee losses. After a loss or two, you want a starter to step up and say "ok, I'm not letting this get out of hand, I'm ending this right here and now. Then you want him to go out and scratch and claw to keep his team in the game and do what it takes to end that slide. Pettitte is a stopper. Clemens was once and can be a stopper. Wang can be a stopper. Mussina is no longer such. Moose is no longer the guy that Torre would turn to in the pivotal game 3 of a series and he (apparently) can no longer put his team on his back and gut out a performance when they need one.
This leads to a follow-up question which he so subtly asked last week: "Who would we replace him with?"
Ian Kennedy is not going to happen. It's too late in a year and too deep into a playoff push to throw a rookie with a big future directly into the fire. We all want to see him, but it's not happening. Kei Igawa... eh... More on him later. Matt DeSalvo has pitched well as of late down in the minors, but is 1-3 and sports a 6.18 ERA in 7 ML appearances. Tyler Clippard fell apart after being demoted and I haven't heard much from him in quite some time. I doubt he's lighting it up down tehre.
Steven White is another option. I know absolutely nothing about him. Apparently he was the Yankees best pitching prospect several years ago. If anyone remembers the state of the Yankee farm system several years ago, you realize that's not saying much.
No
Mussina, while no Greg Maddux, is still a guileful pitcher and can be very effective when he's hitting his marks. Ben from River Ave Blues wrote a very good piece on Mussina for those of us who, with his recent ineffectiveness, have forgotten what a great pitcher he's been. And for those who dislike him because they think he's a snobbish jerk should read this piece by Peter Abraham. Frankly, he sounds like me. I don't have time for stupid questions either.
Before his last 3 mind-numbing starts, he'd won his previous 4 (albeit, 2 were against KC and 1 in Chicago). He'd pitched 25 1/3 innings, given up 8 runs on 29 hits and 2 walks and struck out 19. When David Wells and Greg Maddux are still out there getting outs and fielding their position, I still believe that Mussina has got 2-3 years left as a servicable back of the rotation starter.
So what then?
Should Moose lose his job? Unless the alternative is Ian Kennedy, then I say no. Sort of. With the Devil Rays coming to town, whom Mussina is 0-1 with a 7.59 in 10 2/3 innings (2 starts) and has allowed 9 runs on 18 hits (remember that friday-night shalacking they gave him?), I think it would be a good idea to skip his next start in favor of someone like DeSalvo, Wright, Igaga or Wight. But Moose is here and he's here for another year as well. He needs to make some adjustments and compensate for the fact that he is not a plus-90 thrower anymore. Unfortunately, Guidry may not be very well suited to helping Mussina with this. He was a completely different pitcher than Mussina is. Someone like Stottlemyer is who Moose needs to work with right now.
On to Sean Henn. Henn has gone 6 1/3 innings in his last 3 appearances as the Yankee lefty/long man. He's given up 15 runs on 15 hits and an incredible 8 walks. He's also earned two big losses. Since his promotion, Henn has looked every bit the AAAA pitcher.
Would it really be a bad idea to use Kei Igawa as the long man and lefty specialist? Ignore the money aspect, that's useless to debate. It's gone. They need to focus on what is best for the team. Igawa has been an unmitigated disaster as a Yankee starter but his most successful outing was a spot start against the Red Sox where he pitched 6 shutout innings and only giving up 2 hits. His walks are bad and he's prone to the long ball but I think it's worth a shot. Nothing else has worked thus far.
One other thing. Edwar Ramirez does not have a major league fastball. He has an all-world changeup, but nothing to set it up with. He's not going to be a good reliever until he can stop hitters from sitting on the changeup and fouling off his other pitches. When he got two quick strikes on Garret Anderson with the changeup the other day, I can't imagine I was the only one who was thinking that he's going to be sitting on that third changeup like you wouldn't believe. We all know what happened next; he hit one that hasn't landed yet. Edwar is a nice ancillary guy to have in your pen for a different look. But until he muscles up and gets himself a fastball (eat a damn hamburger, man), that's all he's going to be.
There's no point even addressing Chris Britton at this time. If he's not up by now, they've got to know something that we don't.
Discussion
7 Comments on "Should Mike Mussina Lose His Job?"
#1
Posted by Mike S., August 28, 2007 12:03 AM
Clippard is down at AA Trenton. He originally went down to AAA Scranton, struggled there, and is struggling in AA. Since being sent down, he hasn't done much.
Buster Olney apparently made reference to "young Steven White" getting a start. Um, 26 isn't young.
Mussina, I think, is done. Last year (ERA+ of 125) was a blip, esp. since the two years before that were 98 and 101 (100=league average) and this year is 78. Let's throw out the blip of 2006, and it's 98-101-78. The writing is on the wall. Frankly, I hope he retires at season's end. Most likely won't though. Be nice if he did. Use his salary to upgrade elsewhere.
About Edwar, granted he needs another pitch, granted a breaking pitch, but he at least there is something there (16 K in 10 2/3) to work with. Problem is when he gets hit, it is hit hard. But at least he has something to work with. Sean Henn doesn't. If Henn wasn't left-handed, he'd be long gone by now.
#3
Posted by Joseph P., August 28, 2007 11:11 AM
According to Tyler Kepner, Britton was recalled last night.
http://riveraveblues.com/2007/08/28/freakin-finally-heres-britton/
#4
Posted by Chip, August 28, 2007 11:25 AM
Finally, I hope that you're right about Britton. I don't care what anybody else thinks, I wanna see Kennedy come up and pitch the game. Is he really that much more of a gamble than Moose at this point? Also, Igawa as long man just makes sense
#5
Posted by Jim Johnson, August 28, 2007 11:52 AM
It's not that Kennedy is a gamble, it's that they don't want to throw a kid who has never been to the big into an already hot pennant race. Plus, he's near his innings cap for the year.
Remember, Kennedy is projected to be pretty good, but he's not Joba or Hughes.
Thanks for the Britton tip Joe. Good call. Now we'll find out if there's some reason that Britton has been wasting away down in the minors.
#6
Posted by Matt S., August 28, 2007 1:30 PM
Has anyone thought that maybe the yankees should re-vert Joba back to a starter for the year and put him in Moose's spot and make Moose the long man
#7
Posted by David Rabinowitz, August 28, 2007 1:41 PM
As much as I can't stand Kei Igawa as a starter, I would take him in the bullepn over Sean "I Always Lay Eggs" Henn any day.
I was at Henn's MLB debut. He was awful then and he's awful now.
Mussina may be able to bounce back, but when it comes to the postseason (assuming they make it), I think he should become a long reliever/bullpen guy. I know Hughes doesn't have nearly as much experience as Moose, but I'd rather have a rotation of Pettitte, Wang, Clemens, Hughes.
For another angle on the Moose dilemma, check this blog out. It has a breakdown of Moose's pay per inning and per run over his last two opposite streaks.
Moose looks absolutely lost out there. I just don't understand how a guy can go from dominant (4-0, 2.84) to putrid (0-3, 17.69 ERA) just like that.
And being that he makes a ridiculous amount of money, I thought I'd figure out how much each streak cost.

















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