Expect the unexpected on draft day

20 Responses to Expect the unexpected on draft day

1. Kevros says:

   March 29, 2008 at 9:26 am

   Yeah, they could definitely move up. A lot of people are saying that the higher picks have less value than they used making cost less than the chart says to move up.
   The only way I see them doing it though is if they really have one player graded much higher than the rest. If there are 2 or 3 guys that they rate really high but still have similar grades, they will probably settle for whoever is left. Why pay more and trade picks for someone who is worth about the same to them, even if it isn’t at a position of need…

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2. Screaming Eagles says:

   March 29, 2008 at 11:00 am

   They could do it, but my guess is if they do anything they will trade away the 7th pick to Dallas for their first pick and maybe their 2nd rd pick?
   If they did move up to the 4th or 5th spot, which to me is more likely the 5th spot it would be to grab Gholston. This guy playing the opposite side of Adalius Thomas would, in my opinion be awesome and my gut feeling is that Bill knows this as well.
   If we don’t move and stay with the 7th pick I seriously believe the Jets grab Gholston not because they have to have him but because the Jets would know if still there then we would draft him and Jets don’t want Gholston in NE.
   I actually think the Cowboys will move up to the 4th spot so the Cowboys can get McFadden and if that happens we may move the the 5th spot because then more than likely the guy KC wants would still be there at number 7.
   I don’t like the fat that we would draft a CB at 7 even though we need CB help because there has not been one true shutdown CB drafted in the top ten since Champ Bailey in 1999 and if the CB we draft is not a shutdown CB then don’t draft him at 7.
   If it were my call, and we did move up I would try and move up to get Gholston.

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3. Brent says:

   March 29, 2008 at 11:36 am

   Screaming Eagles,
   I think you are right about the KC pick and their target player being on the boards at 7.
   I am not sure how the relationship is between Herm and Bill, but do think the Pats could move up to take Atlanta’s spot at No. 3 as Dimitroff is now in their front office.
   I like Gholston and think the Jets would take him before the Pats could. But I would not be upset if the Pats took Sedrick Ellis at No. 7.
   Otherwise there are no CBs or LBs worth taking at N0. 7, so maybe an offensive lineman in Ryan Clady. Although I have heard he is not a Pats type of player.

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4. phillyraider says:

   March 29, 2008 at 11:40 am

   I honestly don’t think gholston will be available at #5 because the raiders are going to take him. unless of course some sort of trade is worked out between dallas and oakland (which as a raider fan i would prefer).
   screaming eagles is right (how it pains me to agree with a pats fan) solid cornerbacks can be found later in the first even early second round. hell the raiders got Asomugha with the 31st pick and he is the definition of a shutdown corner

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5. RaiderKen says:

   March 29, 2008 at 1:16 pm

   Look the Raiders just don’t trade down in the first round. EVER. Check the history doesn’t happen. Won’t happen, I guarantee it. Raiders take Dmac. Only because Chris Long is gone, and Gholston may or may not be on the Raiders radar. Even if Al thinks he can get Dmac later he’ll take him when he’s sure he has em. Best Athlete available hands down.

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6. Maverick says:

   March 29, 2008 at 2:24 pm

   I think that the Raiders will stay at four or trade for both of Dallas’ 1st rounders. Nobody who knows anything about the Raiders would even think that a #4 overall is equivallent to a #7 and a #77 (with the added picks at the end of round 2). Since the Pat’s cheated their way out of #31, I think that they will stay at #7 and draft a better camera man.

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7. Screaming Eagles says:

   March 29, 2008 at 2:55 pm

   That guy is a beast, as a Patriots fan I would almost give up our 7th pick for him. Now that Markus Trufant has re-signed with Seattle I think the Patriots which are my team will go after Asomugha at the end of the year. However, since he was tagged he is going to go off this year to get the big money next year. However, I ws never a big Assante Samuel fan because he jumped too many routes so paying him the money he wanted for us would have been stupid. But Asomugha is well worth the money and the Raiders are going to have tough time keeping him next season, especially if they keep this years 4th rd pick. If I were the Raiders, I would trade my 4th pick to Dallas for their two first rd picks because you won’t poay as much for those two guys and then at the end of this year you will have a much better chance of re-signing Asomugha. If the Raiders do not do that, then you can expect NE to come calling. By the way…..it was an incomplete pass (:-D)

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8. Kevros says:

   March 29, 2008 at 3:24 pm

   Maverick – You’re just jealous that Pioli is a raving looney like you’re grandpa Al Davis…

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9. Jamie says:

   March 29, 2008 at 3:58 pm

   Most are talking about the Pats targeting Vernon Gholston, which does make the most sense. If he were a Patriot playing opposite fellow Ohio State alumni Mike Vrabel, it would be a bigtime pressure package. However, don’t discount the Pats grading Chris Long higher. He has excellent character, plays the run better than Gholston, and equaled him in total sacks last season. Long also played for Al Groh, a friend of Belichick’s from his days with the Jets. The Pats may not have visited with him simply because Bill can get all the info he needs about Long from Groh. Long probably won’t fall but you never know what can happen on draft day.

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10. Kevros says:

    March 29, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    I meant to say Pioli isn’t raving looney…

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11. Raiderkev25 says:

    March 29, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I expect the Raiders to trade out of the #4 pick. It makes sense cuz Nnamdi needs his long term deal and would lower the salary cap. I think we should trade out of the first round entirely to stock pile multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks. I believe we could trade back and acquire atleast a later 1st, two 2nd’s, two 3rd’s. We could fill our depth chart out better this way because we have enough stars on both sides of the ball now. Well I could see us trying to get another potential star with the late first, maybe WR James Hardy, or Limas Sweed. I wouldn’t put off drafting OT/OG Branden Albert either as a late first rounder. This guy is a beast and could play guard or tackle in the NFL. He would be a great player in our system. It’s good that Chris Carr is gone, now John Bowie can get reps this year as a fourth corner. I wouldn’t trade Fabian Washington if we couldn’t get value for him this year.

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12. Cowboys Fan says:

    March 29, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Fortunately, none of you are correct concerning my Cowboys and fortunately we don’t need to move up in the draft, we already have a starting RB who is a game changer. We don’t need a second one. Also, out of the 30 invites to Valley Ranch, McFaddin was not one of them – He is not invited and I am glad because he is way, way, way, way, way, over rated and certaintly not Emmit Smith or Adrian Peterson by no means.
    Our goal will be to add a CB and WR in the first round (I hope), and then acquire a change of pace game changing RB in the second round and use him as a third down back. Our best option will be either Chris Johnson who ran a 4.24, runs over people, through people, around people, and does not just get separation,sep but get’s 15 to 20 yards distance from most defenders when he hits the gap. If he is not available, we will probably try for Jamaal Charles or Felix Jones if they are still on the board. Any of those backs will do us just fine. So, all of you other salivating teams can have Mendenhal, Turf Toe injured Stewart, and over rated McFaddin. Of course if you don’t want to spend a lot of money on such over rated high RB picks, you can get guys who play a lot like those. You can pick up Kevin Jones or Tyson Thompson, or even try to go get our former Julius Jones or his brother Thomas Jones, or heck, even Cedric Benson for much lower money with the same types of running styles and production. Get the picture?

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13. RaiderSensation says:

    March 30, 2008 at 1:20 am

    The author obviously doesn’t know Al Davis. He’ll require 3 first round draft picks, especially if McFadden is still available.
    While a trade might make sense with the off-season spending spree, I can’t see any value at the #7 and a 3rd round positions. With Chris Long, Jake Long, Darren McFadden and Vernon Gholston being gone by #7, that’s a bit too optimistic for the Pats.
    They’re better off trading with the Falcons, especially if Matt Ryan is off the board.

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14. Brent says:

    March 30, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Is this the same Al Davis that gave up Randy Moss for a 4th round pick? Or overpaid for Javon Walker and now Hall? Nnamdi still needs to be paid as well and has not signed the offer yet in hopes of getting a better deal. But happens now that Edwards is signed? Is this Nnamdi’s last year as a Raider?
    The Raiders are much improved over last year and I am waiting to see how well the defense plays with all the new guys. If they take a defensive player it will be Gholston as a much needed pass rusher.
    Offensively the raiders do not need a running back they need to improve their offensive line and should take Jake Long if he is there.
    I think the Raiders would be better off to move down and grab some extra picks, but Al Davis just doesn’t seem to the best when it comes to trading players and picks.
    Until it all comes together on the field the team will still be lucky to be 8-8. This is due mostly to issues with the team management, coaching and still a quality and consistent QB. Russel still has not proved himself and if he gets injured then what do the Raiders have?

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15. 0tt0 says:

    March 30, 2008 at 11:42 am

    gholston will not be available at #6…he might not even be available at #2….he wont drop past the raiders

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16. Jamie says:

    March 30, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Brent did a pretty good job summing up my feelings on Al Davis. Adding an additional late round pick to my trade scenario would make it fit exactly according to the trade value chart, but those high picks don’t carry the same value they once did. If Davis is desperate to trade out and the Pats offer the best collection of picks, he will pull the trigger. Brent’s “Randy Moss for a fourth round pick” is probably the best example of this.

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17. Jamie says:

    March 30, 2008 at 11:54 am

    0tt0
    Hence my trade scenarios IF the Pats covet Gholston or Long enough to move up.

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18. jonboyraider1 says:

    March 30, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    this all about the best in the draft chris long sure look good in silver an black!!!!

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19. Washingtonstateraider says:

    March 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Randy no loss just needed out of oakland. Even if al got nothing the team would have been better off. straight cancer.

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20. hawaiir8dr says:

    March 30, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    The Raiders need offensive line help! not another running back. Drafting McFadden at #4 is one thing,
    signing him to a contract is another!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (aka J. Russell). IMO, Raiders should draft Long or Gholston.

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